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  • lx1x

    Peanut Gallery
    Apr 19, 2009
    26,992
    Maryland
    new toy!!! x-change 40S&W. :party29:

    cant wait till saturday to test it out... :D
     

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    lx1x

    Peanut Gallery
    Apr 19, 2009
    26,992
    Maryland
    thanks.. im a lil dissappointed to find that the guide rod is plastic and just a tad in a heavy side... but still lov it.. :)
     

    jhason

    Active Member
    Jan 29, 2009
    287
    MontCo
    Hi all I just wanted to tell you my experience with the 9mm Sig P226 Exchange Kit. First off I'm no expert but here are my observations during my first range experience.

    -First off 9mm ammo is so hard to find that Gilberts instituted a 1 box policy per visit which blows.
    -I did not do any initial cleaning with the barrel, slide, guide rod, and spring. However, i did an inspection to ensure they were no abnormality such as cracks. I did apply additional CLP on the slide rails.
    -The magazine that came with the kit can only hold 10 rounds. It's essentially a shorter magazine with a plastic attachment that extends the total length of the magazine so that it will fit in the magazine well. Based on how difficult it was to put 10 rounds in this mag i would venture to say that the same spring on the standard 18 round mag was used.
    -I did also purchase 2 SCT (Super Capacity Tactical) 20 round mags.
    -Now the really fun part, shooting:
    1.) The ammo used was 50 rounds of 147 grain Fiocchi 9mm rounds.
    2.) Dealing with the kick of this pistol is a pleasure compared to my Glock 23 .40sw.
    3.) One of the reason why I chose to buy this pistol was because of all the reviews stating it's reliability. Watching the review that Nutnfancy did on youtube sealed the deal for me (http://www.youtube.com/user/nutnfancy). Granted there is suppose to be a break-in period I had an issue where 50% of the time the pistol would jam from either Failure to Feed or Failure to Eject. I would say in total they were more Failure to Eject issues. However, with the 10 round mag I experienced a lot of Failure to Feed issue which may be due to the really stiff spring. During the break in period of my Glock 23 I never had a FTF problem but would experience 1-3 FTE issues for every 50 rounds. After shooting over 500 rounds and paying particular attention with limp-wristing I haven't had a single issue with FTE nor FTF.
    4.) Another issue that I did notice was that after the last round was fired the slide never locked into place with any of the 3 mags that was used. So either the ammo was under powered or the recoil spring is too stiff. I wonder if there would be any chance that SIG mistakenly shipped a recoil spring not rated for 9mm ammo?

    I will try to post pictures tonight.

    Jhason
     

    lx1x

    Peanut Gallery
    Apr 19, 2009
    26,992
    Maryland
    Hi all I just wanted to tell you my experience with the 9mm Sig P226 Exchange Kit. First off I'm no expert but here are my observations during my first range experience.

    -First off 9mm ammo is so hard to find that Gilberts instituted a 1 box policy per visit which blows.
    -I did not do any initial cleaning with the barrel, slide, guide rod, and spring. However, i did an inspection to ensure they were no abnormality such as cracks. I did apply additional CLP on the slide rails.
    -The magazine that came with the kit can only hold 10 rounds. It's essentially a shorter magazine with a plastic attachment that extends the total length of the magazine so that it will fit in the magazine well. Based on how difficult it was to put 10 rounds in this mag i would venture to say that the same spring on the standard 18 round mag was used.
    -I did also purchase 2 SCT (Super Capacity Tactical) 20 round mags.
    -Now the really fun part, shooting:
    1.) The ammo used was 50 rounds of 147 grain Fiocchi 9mm rounds.
    2.) Dealing with the kick of this pistol is a pleasure compared to my Glock 23 .40sw.
    3.) One of the reason why I chose to buy this pistol was because of all the reviews stating it's reliability. Watching the review that Nutnfancy did on youtube sealed the deal for me (http://www.youtube.com/user/nutnfancy). Granted there is suppose to be a break-in period I had an issue where 50% of the time the pistol would jam from either Failure to Feed or Failure to Eject. I would say in total they were more Failure to Eject issues. However, with the 10 round mag I experienced a lot of Failure to Feed issue which may be due to the really stiff spring. During the break in period of my Glock 23 I never had a FTF problem but would experience 1-3 FTE issues for every 50 rounds. After shooting over 500 rounds and paying particular attention with limp-wristing I haven't had a single issue with FTE nor FTF.
    4.) Another issue that I did notice was that after the last round was fired the slide never locked into place with any of the 3 mags that was used. So either the ammo was under powered or the recoil spring is too stiff. I wonder if there would be any chance that SIG mistakenly shipped a recoil spring not rated for 9mm ammo?

    I will try to post pictures tonight.

    Jhason

    try using different ammo if you still have same issue.. i still have to test my 40 this coming weekend.
     

    jhason

    Active Member
    Jan 29, 2009
    287
    MontCo
    I'm going to check next time I'm at the rang if they have any +p ammo. It's a bummer that you have to buy your ammo there:(

    Also, one minor detail that I forgot to mention was the the slide assembly is not as black as my lower reciever:) It's about a shade of 2 lighter which is not a big deal. Also, I noticed that the finish on the slide assembly is not as durable as the Tennifer finish on the Glock. I was also surprised that the guide rod was plastic.

    I would be really interested in your range report this weekend with your new toy. Have fun!

    Jhason


    try using different ammo if you still have same issue.. i still have to test my 40 this coming weekend.
     

    lx1x

    Peanut Gallery
    Apr 19, 2009
    26,992
    Maryland
    just got back from the range.. the p229 did well with the xchange 40sw.. no fte, ftf or loading problems with wwb.. i just need to get use to it.. its shooting low (its just me i bet). shot atleast 75 rounds. the grip is a little small but manageable. :):thumbsup::thumbsup:
     
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    lx1x

    Peanut Gallery
    Apr 19, 2009
    26,992
    Maryland
    I read that the 22lr for the glock 23 dont lock back after firing the last round. is this different with other manufacturers?

    i think only few 22lr does that.. i know sig doesnt.. lol

    atleast the p229 and yours.. dont know about the mosquito. :)
     

    lx1x

    Peanut Gallery
    Apr 19, 2009
    26,992
    Maryland
    after the Mosquito I shot the other week, I dont think I will ever buy one, will jsut get the kit for the 220


    yeah.. its cheaper that way.. i went the other way around.. bought the p229r in 22lr and changed the upper w/ the xchange kit.
     

    jhason

    Active Member
    Jan 29, 2009
    287
    MontCo
    lx1x,

    Hey, glad that your X change kit worked out well for you. I'm trying to find time to go to Gilbert to shoot with my setup. I'm going to first shoot with target ammo then with +p ammo. It will be interesting to see if the slide will lock back with the +p ammo.

    Later,
    Jhason


    just got back from the range.. the p229 did well with the xchange 40sw.. no fte, ftf or loading problems with wwb.. i just need to get use to it.. its shooting low (its just me i bet). shot atleast 75 rounds. the grip is a little small but manageable. :):thumbsup::thumbsup:
     

    lx1x

    Peanut Gallery
    Apr 19, 2009
    26,992
    Maryland
    lx1x,

    Hey, glad that your X change kit worked out well for you. I'm trying to find time to go to Gilbert to shoot with my setup. I'm going to first shoot with target ammo then with +p ammo. It will be interesting to see if the slide will lock back with the +p ammo.

    Later,
    Jhason

    try to put some grease on the slide rails... it may help w/ the movement of the slide a little.

    w/ your last round not locking.. make sure you are not near or pushing down the locking switch.. i did that few time on my xdm until i get used to it.

    on the guide spring.. what color did it came w/? i have the blue paint on the springs that i got for 40s&w.
     

    Splitter

    R.I.P.
    Jun 25, 2008
    7,266
    Westminster, MD
    For the record, the Skeeter does lock back after the last round fired. I keep mine well lubed with Gunslick on the slide (tabs).

    Underpowered ammo causes all sorts of feed/eject issues. It will also fail to feed even with 100% reliable ammo after it gets really dirty but a quick pass with the bore snake and all is well.

    can't say enough about the gun, just have to feed it what it likes.

    Splitter
     

    jhason

    Active Member
    Jan 29, 2009
    287
    MontCo
    Well I'm happy to report that my last session at Gilberts was a good one. Out of 75 rounds of ammo (50 rounds frangible and 25 rounds +P hollow points) they were no failures what so ever. Right before my session I placed some extra CLP on slide rails. I guess the first session that I had was a break-in session. BTW the spring color is red. Below are some pics.

    try to put some grease on the slide rails... it may help w/ the movement of the slide a little.

    w/ your last round not locking.. make sure you are not near or pushing down the locking switch.. i did that few time on my xdm until i get used to it.

    on the guide spring.. what color did it came w/? i have the blue paint on the springs that i got for 40s&w.
     

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    lx1x

    Peanut Gallery
    Apr 19, 2009
    26,992
    Maryland
    cool!! i've shot mine again this past weekend.. no issues at all.. it like both cheap ammo.. wwb and blazer. i still need to get use to it since ive only been shooting a full size ones.
     

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