Shooting 45 Colt from a 45 ACP Cylinder - SAA

[John from MD]

Yes. That is clear with the later post that said the empty cases get stuck going back in.

Maybe ken's first answer is correct, build up of fouling where the case mouth is?

That could cause difficulty extracting and also reinserting the empties.

This. It happens to me too from time to time even though I have polished chambers.

 

[gungate]

This. It happens to me too from time to time even though I have polished chambers.

I believe this is correct. I think the lip on these rounds is a bit thicker than the cowboy rounds he was using so any dirt or burrs or whatever might be in the cylinder is what is causing the problems.

 

[linkstate]

For revolver chamber cleaning, I've settled on the following:

Order revolver chamber brushes from Brownells.
Get a cheap brass pistol rod and remove the handle (unscrew, break it off, cut the rod below the handle).
Apply your favorite CLP/cleaner to the cylinders.
Chuck brass pistol rod in a variable speed drill with attached chamber brush.
Spin brush at low speed and move back and forth for a few seconds.
Push a dry patch through and repeat the above step as necessary.

 

[gungate]

I watched him show me the jamb. If he puts 6 empty cartridges in, It'll spin a time or two and then the gun gets like bound up and won't spin anymore. When this happens, he has to pull the pin and remove the cylinder out of the side. I took my SAA and could not get it into this state no matter what I did. I can only think something with the cylinder rotation barbs must be catching on something.

 

[Art3]

I watched him show me the jamb. If he puts 6 empty cartridges in, It'll spin a time or two and then the gun gets like bound up and won't spin anymore. When this happens, he has to pull the pin and remove the cylinder out of the side. I took my SAA and could not get it into this state no matter what I did. I can only think something with the cylinder rotation barbs must be catching on something.

Well that's pretty weird. It doesn't do it with empty chambers? What make is it...Colt? Is it binding up because the bolt is engaging improperly?

 

[John from MD]

For revolver chamber cleaning, I've settled on the following:

Order revolver chamber brushes from Brownells.
Get a cheap brass pistol rod and remove the handle (unscrew, break it off, cut the rod below the handle).
Apply your favorite CLP/cleaner to the cylinders.
Chuck brass pistol rod in a variable speed drill with attached chamber brush.
Spin brush at low speed and move back and forth for a few seconds.
Push a dry patch through and repeat the above step as necessary.

I do the same. I also do the same thing for my double barrel shotguns.

 

[John from MD]

I watched him show me the jamb. If he puts 6 empty cartridges in, It'll spin a time or two and then the gun gets like bound up and won't spin anymore. When this happens, he has to pull the pin and remove the cylinder out of the side. I took my SAA and could not get it into this state no matter what I did. I can only think something with the cylinder rotation barbs must be catching on something.

The only thing I can think of that may be doing this is the cylinder base pin bushing has moved forward.

 

[gungate]

Well that's pretty weird. It doesn't do it with empty chambers? What make is it...Colt? Is it binding up because the bolt is engaging improperly?

Not with empty chambers and he says not with the other ammo he uses. This is an Uberti SAA. Almost new only a couple hundred rounds through it.

We cannot tell why it is binding.

 

[Art3]

Not with empty chambers and he says not with the other ammo he uses. This is an Uberti SAA. Almost new only a couple hundred rounds through it.

We cannot tell why it is binding.

Well I'm certainly stumped. There is a simple yet incomplete and unsatisfying solution...for now: use the other ammo

 

[outrider58]

This gun's malfunction aside, does anyone ever use Pro-shot Lead-Clean Cloth for removing lead fouling? I've used it for years on my stainless wheel guns for removing lead build-up, especially on cylinder faces.

You shouldn't use it on blued surfaces though. It will wipe the blue right off a gun. It works great on bores and cylinders though.

https://www.usconcealedcarry.com/resources/ccw_reciprocity_map/pa-gun-laws/#recStates

 

[gungate]

Well I'm certainly stumped. There is a simple yet incomplete and unsatisfying solution...for now: use the other ammo

Another piece of evidence apparently when 5 are loaded it is ok and when the 6th is added that's when the jambs start.

 

[outrider58]

I think it's time for your friend to consult a professional.

 

[gungate]

I think it's time for your friend to consult a professional.

I told him this from the start when he blamed the ammo. If it was the ammo, there would have been a recall.

 

[Biggfoot44]

Something happening with the cylinder bushing ?

 

[outrider58]

Something happening with the cylinder bushing ?

Maybe there's just a piece of crap found it's way into the bushing? That still doesn't explain why X number of empty cases cause the problem.

 

[John from MD]

In a double action modern revolver, the symptoms would usually point to a bent crane. In the case of cloned 1873 revolvers, some have a short base pin bushing which may have come loose and isn't seated square. Those with the full length base pin bushing wouldn't have that problem.