Senate Bills 0027 and 0099 Hearing Coverage

[steveh326]

I could never go to one of these. I would not be able to restrain myself from standing up and calling some of these last people who testified "liars" and "idiots" at the top of my lungs, which I don't think would help anyone here. why is there no rebuttal or challenge to their outright lies?

 

[Stagstalker]

A sincere "hat's off" and thank you to all that testified today.

 

[ironpony]

I could never go to one of these. I would not be able to restrain myself from standing up and calling some of these last people who testified "liars" and "idiots" at the top of my lungs, which I don't think would help anyone here. why is there no rebuttal or challenge to their outright lies?

+1
Trump would do it!

 

[cantstop]

A sincere "hat's off" and thank you to all that testified today.

Yes, thanks to all that supported this.

 

[Bob A]

One thing I noticed during testimony is the prevailing argument against granting a wear and carry permit is that there was already a recourse against violence towards the victim, the police department.

Mere mention of the murder rate in Baltimore ought to undermine any idea of reliance on the PD for protection against violence.

 

[dogbone]

One thing I noticed during testimony is the prevailing argument against granting a wear and carry permit is that there was already a recourse against violence towards the victim, the police department. If that is the case then we already have a agency to protect us against our house or car burning up, the fire Department. Using the same argument why would you have a fire extinguisher in your car or house. There is already a public agency to protect you right? Just asking for a friend....

The fire extinguisher analogy has been used in past years and fell upon deaf ears, like any statement which doesn't pander to the omniscience and benevolence of the State.

 

[DivingDriver]

Mere mention of the murder rate in Baltimore ought to undermine any idea of reliance on the PD for protection against violence.

Agreed, so why doesn't someone use that argument at the next assembly. Just question them if they have a fire extinguisher in their house and if so why? Then push the argument to its logical ending. At that point they become a hypocrite if they say that the fire extinguish is for their protection.

 

[DivingDriver]

Next point, one individual kept referring to the fact of more guns more shootings. Well duh! More cars more accidents, more 5 gal buckets more kids drowning, more knives.... You get my point. Let's be proactive. We know they are going to throw these meaningless statistics out there so we should when giving testimony put them out there first and debunk the statements.

 

[danb]

Next point, one individual kept referring to the fact of more guns more shootings. Well duh! More cars more accidents, more 5 gal buckets more kids drowning, more knives.... You get my point. Let's be proactive. We know they are going to throw these meaningless statistics out there so we should when giving testimony put them out there first and debunk the statements.

More talking and testifying, more stupidity!

 

[DivingDriver]

While we're at it one more point that I noticed. Why doesn't someone read verbatim the application form for purchasing a firearm with emphasis on all the items that make you a non eligible person to acquire said firearm. Drugs, criminal conviction, habitual drunkard,domestic violence etc. Beat them up with their own laws and knock the legs out from them before they can twist the (ignore) what's already law.

 

[dogbone]

The "doctor and scientist" from NIH referenced a study stating people with guns were 4.2 times as likely to be shot than people without guns. He will likely be back again with the same BS for the House hearings, so here is some info about that study:

http://reason.com/blog/2009/10/05/why-skydivers-would-be-better

http://www.usmessageboard.com/threads/ten-gun-myths-and-memes-shot-down.280488/page-101

The 2009 paper by Branas has been pretty thoroughly refuted as a piece of sagecraft specifically tailored to be used in the McDonald case. It would be fun if someone could bring it up in the House before the "good doctor" can testify.

 

[JPG]

I can't tell if this woman is stupid or being intentionally obtuse about "if you're prohibited from owning a gun, you're prohibited from a CCW"

How hard is this to understand?

Can’t a prohibited person carry a knife or other weapon with a CCW?

 

[swinokur]

How sad is it a member of the GA doesn't know the difference between the Militia and the military?

Pretty damn ignorant.

"I ask, sir, what is the militia? It is the whole people except for a few public officials."

George Mason

 

[BeoBill]

Those testifying should be sworn in under oath, this would stop alot of the blatant lies and false reports...

I don't think for a New York second that it would. These boobs don't grasp the difference between fantasy and reality. Why would saying a few words make any difference to them?

 

[BeoBill]

A sincere "hat's off" and thank you to all that testified today.

What he said!

 

[rambling_one]

Those testifying should be sworn in under oath, this would stop alot of the blatant lies and false reports. It should also be a requirement to know and understand the Constitution and BoR in order to hold a public office position.

I believe it was Senator Green (JPC Vice Chair) who more than once tried and failed to get a bill passed making it illegal to lie before the Committee. Seems like a no brainer to me.

 

[CrueChief]

I believe it was Senator Green (JPC Vice Chair) who more than once tried and failed to get a bill passed making it illegal to lie before the Committee. Seems like a no brainer to me.

Some one in politics requiring the truth be told!?!?

Now thats funny right there, that cat must have forgot his job and most likely got a talking to by the leadership

 

[44man]

I could only listen to the first few minutes and had business to attend to, without reading the last bunch of pages could I get a synopsis?

Or is it “ guns and gun people bad, only crumbles need guns, and we don’t want to put criminals in jail” ********?

 

[Not_an_outlaw]

I'm listening now. Who is the female black legislator? Can she find her car in the parking lot after hearings?

 

[MindTheGAP]

Can’t a prohibited person carry a knife or other weapon with a CCW?

IIRC, (and excuse the wrong wording up there, meant W/C permit etc) if you're disqualified due to the felony / violent crime classification re: firearms, you cannot carry a knife legally. That said, and again, !!IANAL!!, I believe it's considered only a misdemeanor if caught.

Anyone smarter / more informed than me care to clarify?