Seattle Police Begin Gun Confiscations: No Laws Broken, No Warrant, No Charges

[CrazySanMan]

Seattle Police Begin Gun Confiscations: No Laws Broken, No Warrant, No Charges
https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-03-06/seattle-police-begin-gun-confiscations-no-laws-broken-no-warrant-no-charges

A man in Seattle has had his gun confiscated by police after breaking no laws. The police took his gun without a warrant and without pressing any charges. Tyranny has officially taken hold on American soil.

This sets a precedent that government can now forcefully take guns away from an individual without a crime being committed or an arrest being made and without a warrant. In the name of fear and political exploitation of anti-gun rhetoric, a citizen’s Second Amendment rights have been ripped away from him by the government.

The new “red flag” law, which has taken hold in other states already, allows the courts and law enforcement to take away guns from individuals they deem are dangerous and they’ve just begun the confiscation. A man living in the Belltown neighborhood of Seattle, Washington became the first individual in the state to have his firearm confiscated without any formal arrest or charges. The man was not identified by authorities.

Neighbors complained that the man had been “staring” at people through storefront windows while wearing a holstered firearm. He was not brandishing his weapon by any account, and open carrying is legal in the area, so he was abiding by the law. Other residents also complained that the man’s open carrying made them feel “uncomfortable” and “unsafe.”

“He was roaming the hallways with a .25 caliber automatic,” said Tony Montana, a man who lives in the same apartment complex as the gun owner and a person without any reasonable gun knowledge. Handguns are semi-automatic.

These lousy complaints from neighbors allowed police to use the newly passed state law to confiscate the man’s firearm because the man apparently stared at others. Maybe there’s a ban on staring at others in Washington we are unaware of. Under the extreme risk protection orders — also referred to as “erpos” or “red flag laws” — police (government officials) are now allowed to violate a person’s Second and Fourth Amendment rights (which are basic fundamental human rights) and take their legally acquired personal property if they are tattled on by offended liberals.

Tyranny has now taken hold on American soil.

 

[StantonCree]

https://www.seattletimes.com/seattl...belltown-under-extreme-risk-protection-order/


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I love your posts in the FISA thread but let’s be honest ZEROHEDGE is pure crap

 

[Alea Jacta Est]

Seattle Police Begin Gun Confiscations: No Laws Broken, No Warrant, No Charges
https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-03-06/seattle-police-begin-gun-confiscations-no-laws-broken-no-warrant-no-charges

Coming to MD next...nice and quick counter MPDC. Thanks.

 

[RonRJA]

As much as I hate to see rights taken away without due process, I do find some humor in the fact that we may not have taken into consideration how if these laws where to spread to our Peoples Republic of Maryland, the inefficiency of government at every level would lead to only one handgun taken away after about a year.

 

[davsco]

think it's more like taken away quickly and efficiently without 'due process' as heck, even trump is ok with that. then the inefficiency comes in when the guy wants his guns back.

 

[Cruacious]

Sounds like there was supposed to be a due process from a court ordered appearance he failed to meet. I have no problem with confiscation IF AND ONLY IF it is in response to a criminal complaint or a finding of incompetency mentally. Legally, the property is still his until he becomes a prohibited person by law. These laws muddy the water in all the above regards and are thus too dangerous to let stand IMO.

 

[BradMacc82]

Wonder if the citizens could file ERPO's against LE and their local politicians?

If they're going to be stuck with shit laws, might as well see if that sword can cut on both ends.

 

[Magnumst]

Sounds like there was supposed to be a due process from a court ordered appearance he failed to meet. I have no problem with confiscation IF AND ONLY IF it is in response to a criminal complaint or a finding of incompetency mentally. Legally, the property is still his until he becomes a prohibited person by law. These laws muddy the water in all the above regards and are thus too dangerous to let stand IMO.

This is the slippery slope. If you or I are exercising our 2nd amendment right which then put fear in a snow flake, Is this a criminal complaint and why does someone's fears then trump the exercising of ones rights?

 

[StantonCree]

Wonder if the citizens could file ERPO's against LE and their local politicians?

If they're going to be stuck with shit laws, might as well see if that sword can cut on both ends.

The threshold to get a cops gun removed is MUCH less than to get this guys gun removed.

My comment doesn’t include personal weapons

 

[j.smooth4]

hide your guns hide your wife!!

dont let anyone know you have guns

 

[cantstop]

hide your guns hide your wife!!

dont let anyone know you have guns

Too late. I've already sent a couple letters to Howard County's CLEO of my intentions to collect a bunch.