school me on enfields

[Armadillofz1]

dropped by Bart's sports world yesterday and saw an Enfield. was priced a little steep for my wallet but was interesting in that it had written on it, United States Poperty, or something to that effect.
If i was interested in getting my feet wet with an enfield, what should i expect to pay for a half decent banger? something a bit nicer than a canoe paddle.

 

[Chaunsey]

these days i think a nice no4 is running around $350+


i havent really priced them in a while though, and there is no commercial supply so prices are gonna vary wildly.

your best bet is to scour gunbroker, guns america and auction arms for a few days.

 

[Threeband]

"United States Property" identifies it as a Rifle No. 4 Mk. I *, made by Savage for the British, under the Lend Lease program.


The "Number Four Mark One Star" was the North American production version of the Lee Enfield No. 4 Mk I. They were made in the U.S. by Savage, and in Canada at Long Branch. Only the Savage rifles have the "United States Property" mark. It incorporates a few simplifications to speed production. I believe most if not all have two groove barrels (mine does).

 

[Armadillofz1]

Grrrrrrr!!! just started a gunbroker account. this can't be good.

 

[Jimbob2.0]

"United States Property" identifies it as a Rifle No. 4 Mk. I *, made by Savage for the British, under the Lend Lease program.


The "Number Four Mark One Star" was the North American production version of the Lee Enfield No. 4 Mk I. They were made in the U.S. by Savage, and in Canada at Long Branch. Only the Savage rifles have the "United States Property" mark. It incorporates a few simplifications to speed production. I believe most if not all have two groove barrels (mine does).

Correct though there were non-asterisk Savage guns which are a little rarer but not hugely scarce.

Probably inferior to a good UK made enfield but still a nice piece of history. Price should be around $300 to $400 depending on condition for an asterisk gun. Add $50 or so for a non asterisk.

 

[Armadillofz1]

WOW, so $800 is way out there.

 

[Jimbob2.0]

WOW, so $800 is way out there.

Yup........maybe $450 or $500 for a really clean one and you really want it.

Unless it was handled by General Patton with evidence...........no.

 

[Threeband]

You can get a Garand for $800.

In fact, you can get a Garand for $549 delivered to your door.

 

[Armadillofz1]

You can get a Garand for $800.

In fact, you can get a Garand for $549 delivered to your door.

that's what had me wondering about the price. i figured it was some super rare one. other than being in fairly clean shape it didn't strike me as an $800 rifle.

 

[BFMIN]

WOW, so $800 is way out there.

Holy crap yes!
Even if it has papers saying Winston Churchill fired it exactly once to kill Adolph Hitler & its serial number 1,000,000 that's over priced to the max.

 

[Threeband]

Well, if it has the little oil bottle in the butt compartment, that's worth an extra $5 right there.

But if there's evidence it was the personal rifle of Private Tommy Atkins himself, well, it could be priceless.

 

[Dave91]

I saw that same rifle in there about 6-7 weeks ago. There's a reason it's still there.

 

[rdc]

I got a nice No4 MK1 from a member here for $300 in January. $800 is crazy

 

[8milimeter]

I have a real nice No4 Mk II I will sell for $400, with bayo $425.
Will include dies and brass for $450, with Bayonet $475

 

[303_enfield]

Go here and start reading:
http://forums.gunboards.com/forumdisplay.php?55-The-Lee-Enfield-Forum
and
http://www.milsurps.com/forumdisplay.php?f=72

Then find a Bible by Ian Skennerton, read it!
http://www.skennerton.com/

 

[scouse]

dropped by Bart's sports world yesterday and saw an Enfield. was priced a little steep for my wallet but was interesting in that it had written on it, United States Poperty, or something to that effect.
If i was interested in getting my feet wet with an enfield, what should i expect to pay for a half decent banger? something a bit nicer than a canoe paddle.

At the last Annapolis gun show, I paid $950 for a 1955 Fazakerley type 4 mk II, Irish contract. It was new, unfired and still in cosmoline and brown paper. It had no bayonet or sling. I later bought a blade Bayonet and sling (both marked 1955) for a total of $28. I paid for nostalgia as Fazakerleys were made not 5 miles from where I was born and raised. In addition, the Irish contract Enfields, for no practical reason (other, than they are newer, mostly unused and were made under peacetime (!) conditions). The prices on Enfields have been climbing at a steady pace. I plan to unwrap mine and shoot it.

 

[Melnic]

I paid $400 for my No4Mk1 but I was money drunk at the time comming back from a flea market.
Mine is I'd say beat up an was really worth more like $325-$350 but again I had cash in my pocket and I wanted to pop a tag

303 brit is almost $1 a round and of the 3 brands I've tried, Herters was the best. I'm going to start reloading for mine though to make it worth while.

I really like the one I have cause it has the machined flip up micrometer rear sight to adjust elevation. I really like shooting it and with the rear peep, it's a favorite to have others shoot too. You need a special tool to pull the bolt apart. Other than cleaning the bolt, I've not taken anything else on it apart.