SBR "length for Maryland??

[jhartmac]

And second question I wonder how the BATF temp transport of SBR's to Maryland works if Maryland does have some crazy restrictions on it.......

 

[AACo]

Must be at least 29" OAL in MD. Transport into MD and it has to be 29" OAL as well. Haven't filed for transfer into MD...so not sure if they will approve/deny anything under 29" OAL. They have no problem denying our Form 1s&4s for anything under the golden length.

I'm sure someone else will chime in with a bit more detail.

 

[swinokur]

At least one person here on MDS who lives in VA has had 5320.20's denied by BATFE for SBR's <29" in length, even though they were possessed before 10-1-13 and in spite of the fact that the MD statute says any NFA weapon registered with BATFE is legal in MD.

It was Rouchna from VA.

 

[outrider58]

More evidence the murky ambiguous gun laws of Merryland confuse even the BATF.

 

[swinokur]

for a while just after FSA2013 became law BATFE was disapproving all F1 anf F4's until MSP clarified it to them and finally got them to approve SBR's >29". Even though BATFE was shown the MD statute, they still denied 5320,20's for >29" SBR's that had been approved before 10-1-13

it's the goobermint after all
'

 

[swinokur]

MD Statute 5-203. Even after submitting this to BATFE, the owner of a properly registered SBR possessed prior to 10-1-13 but OAL <29" in length was denied approval of a 5320.20 to transport the SBR into MD for a shooting event.
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[jhartmac]

That is total non sense. This means that even if Trump is successful, the individual states somehow supersede Federal law??? Thats insanity at the most. Federal law should allow anyone to transfer into Maryland.

 

[jhartmac]

So the 29" means Im guessing no collapsing stock or retractable stock that allows it to go below 29" as well...........

 

[swinokur]

People from other states who legally possessed a "copycat" weapon before 10-1-13 should be treated just like MD residents who possessed them before 10-1-13.

Legal

The BATFE are morons, and the MSP never bothered to straighten this out. as far as SBR's possesed before 10-1-13 by residents of other states

Intentionally I'm sure.

 

[dontpanic]

So the 29" means Im guessing no collapsing stock or retractable stock that allows it to go below 29" as well...........

OAL is measured from the tip of the barrel (or permanantly installed muzzle device) to the end od a fully extended stock.

As long as it is at least 29" with the stock fully extended it is GTG. Even though it gets shorter when you collapse the stock.

 

[jhartmac]

Oh ok gotya makes sense........stock extension ok as long as it meets the 29"

 

[5.56blaster]

for a while just after FSA2013 became law BATFE was disapproving all F1 anf F4's until MSP clarified it to them and finally got them to approve SBR's >29". Even though BATFE was shown the MD statute, they still denied 5320,20's for >29" SBR's that had been approved before 10-1-13

it's the goobermint after all
'

Yep! They got me on that!

 

[stringer bell]

anything over 29.0 will be approved. nobody in the history of the US has had their stamped NFA weapon measured

 

[Hawkeye]

anything over 29.0 will be approved. nobody in the history of the US has had their stamped NFA weapon measured

You know, guy, you spend an AWFUL lot of time here trying to convince people that they don't need to follow the law.

 

[swinokur]

nobody in the history of the US has had their stamped NFA weapon measured

You know, guy, you spend an AWFUL lot of time here trying to convince people that they don't need to follow the law.

agreed. where are the cites for his claims?

Not the first time he has minimized the importance of trying to obey the law even in gray areas., Bet he won't volunteer to be the test case for his advice.

 

[dreadpirate]

Must be at least 29" OAL in MD. Transport into MD and it has to be 29" OAL as well. Haven't filed for transfer into MD...so not sure if they will approve/deny anything under 29" OAL. They have no problem denying our Form 1s&4s for anything under the golden length.

I'm sure someone else will chime in with a bit more detail.

Same applies to a rimfire?

 

[dreadpirate]

https://www.mdshooters.com/showthread.php?t=171055&highlight=rimfire

 

[outrider58]

https://www.mdshooters.com/showthread.php?t=171055&highlight=rimfire

That is an excellent thread. Good search job DP.

 

[AACo]

Same applies to a rimfire?

No. OP didn't ask about a rimfire rifle....he asked about a rifle. Now wether or not the ATF sees it your way is another question. We have all seen the flip flop on arm braces.

Response was in line with the 10+ others, not sure why you singled out my response.

 

[Silverlax]

OAL is measured from the tip of the barrel (or permanantly installed muzzle device) to the end od a fully extended stock.

As long as it is at least 29" with the stock fully extended it is GTG. Even though it gets shorter when you collapse the stock.

I've been looking into this and it mentions absolutely nothing about measuring with a removable butt pad. Seems odd they require the flash hider permanently affixed but not the pad, if that is in fact the case.