SB387 "Public Safety - Untraceable Firearms" - The Ban on Private Firearm Making

[camo556]

Harvard Law Review article on the unconstitutionality of unfinished receiver bans.

https://www.harvard-jlpp.com/the-unconstitutionality-of-unfinished-receiver-bans-jamie-g-mcwilliam/

 

[trickg]

Harvard Law Review article on the unconstitutionality of unfinished receiver bans.

https://www.harvard-jlpp.com/the-unconstitutionality-of-unfinished-receiver-bans-jamie-g-mcwilliam/

I'm going to write to Larry again today and make sure he gets a link to this article. It's very well written, has solid footing, is easy to understand, and really shows why home-built firearms are completely legal and within the protective scope of the 2nd Amendment.

 

[KIBarrister]

Harvard Law Review article on the unconstitutionality of unfinished receiver bans.

https://www.harvard-jlpp.com/the-unconstitutionality-of-unfinished-receiver-bans-jamie-g-mcwilliam/

I'm going to write to Larry again today and make sure he gets a link to this article. It's very well written, has solid footing, is easy to understand, and really shows why home-built firearms are completely legal and within the protective scope of the 2nd Amendment.

The Harvard note in reality says that a law such as the one pending on Hogan’s desk is likely constitutional (ie, requiring serialization and background checks). Please don’t send that to Hogan’s office in the unlikely event his staff were to actually read it.

ETA: I don’t agree with the interpretation as it applies to the pending Marylandistan law.

 

[trickg]

The Harvard note in reality says that a law such as the one pending on Hogan’s desk is likely constitutional (ie, requiring serialization and background checks). Please don’t send that to Hogan’s office in the unlikely event his staff were to actually read it.

ETA: I don’t agree with the interpretation as it applies to the pending Marylandistan law.

Hadn't gotten around to it yet, but you have to figure, coming from Harvard, it has some weight.

 

[KIBarrister]

Hadn't gotten around to it yet, but you have to figure, coming from Harvard, it has some weight.

Not really, they advance some really far out “living document” nonsense. Sure, they get name recognition, but that is about all...

 

[camo556]

The Harvard note in reality says that a law such as the one pending on Hogan’s desk is likely constitutional (ie, requiring serialization and background checks). Please don’t send that to Hogan’s office in the unlikely event his staff were to actually read it.

ETA: I don’t agree with the interpretation as it applies to the pending Marylandistan law.

Polymer lowers (which is the majority of handguns now) with no metal on the frame can get serialized, how again?

 

[dannyp]

Are you referring to me? That's exactly the opposite of who I am. I have gone to Annapolis, protested, testified, etc. It has never helped. Not even a little.

I'm also someone who fully intends to comply, even though the thought of complying with this travesty sickens me. I'd rather (fortunately in my case) take the small financial hit it's going to take to replace or engrave the guns I have than to not comply, somehow come up on the wrong end of the stick legally, (the chance is low, but never zero) and get my butt in a serious sling - I have no desire to be the test case.

I'll comply fully until it's time for me to leave the bid adieu to this state and move elsewhere where my rights won't be so seriously infringed.

truth , i feel the same . not looking to go to jail for a p80 .

 

[KIBarrister]

Polymer lowers (which is the majority of handguns now) with no metal on the frame can get serialized, how again?

You’re getting into the weeds more than Hogan’s staff will, but the note itself is focused on AR pattern rifles, not pistols. The revisions to the CFR may well make Marylandistan’s pending sb387 subject to attack on narrowly tailored but we aren’t there yet (and I don’t think focusing on P80’s is going to beneficial in this argument with MD pols).

I suggest you reread the note you posted with a focus on the application to existing laws in NY, CA, NV and CT. It is not helpful in application (although it does get the standards correct)

 

[lennyk]

You’re getting into the weeds more than Hogan’s staff will, but the note itself is focused on AR pattern rifles, not pistols. The revisions to the CFR may well make Marylandistan’s pending sb387 subject to attack on narrowly tailored but we aren’t there yet (and I don’t think focusing on P80’s is going to beneficial in this argument with MD pols).

I suggest you reread the note you posted with a focus on the application to existing laws in NY, CA, NV and CT. It is not helpful in application (although it does get the standards correct)

So are you implying that we may have some hope with 80% aluminum AR lowers?

 

[Bountied]

So are you implying that we may have some hope with 80% aluminum AR lowers?

I may have one of those. It could be easily serialized, as it stands its completely blank right now, just black and scary looking.

 

[trickg]

I saw this and thought it was a good quote, and certainly fitting for this situation. I'm not sure that this is Lysander Spooner's quote though - more often it is attributed to Jeffrey R. Snyder.

 

[pcfixer]

John Dean "Jeff" Cooper (May 10, 1920 - September 25, 2006) USMC... is known as father of the "Modern Technique" of handgun shooting. Most firearm professionals consider him to be one of the 20th century's leading experts on the use and history of small arms.
Quotation:
"One cannot legislate the maniacs off the street ... these maniacs can only be shut down by an armed citizenry. Indeed bad things can happen in nations where the citizenry is armed, but not as bad as those which seem to be threatening our disarmed citizenry in this country at this time."

 

[Trappemann]

May I have the link to contract the Gov please?
Thank you!

 

[Bertfish]

The angry mommies are sending theirs at Hogan as we speak. Don't let them be the only voice! ! !

https://governor.maryland.gov/contact-the-governor/

May I have the link to contract the Gov please?
Thank you!

I scrolled for you

 

[eruby]

May I have the link to contract the Gov please?
Thank you!

https://governor.maryland.gov/contact-the-governor/

 

[Trappemann]

https://governor.maryland.gov/contact-the-governor/

Thanks

Message sent

 

[Muleskinner]

I saw this and thought it was a good quote, and certainly fitting for this situation. I'm not sure that this is Lysander Spooner's quote though - more often it is attributed to Jeffrey R. Snyder.

This quote assumes that gun control is a public safety issue. Nothing could be further from the truth. Gun control is about furthering the left-wing agenda. The bottom line is they wish to control the population from cradle to grave and they know they cannot do it without disarming a substantial portion of the population. There are two elements to reaching their goal of Total control.

1 the destruction of the free market economy in the United States of America

2 eliminating any possibility of the citizens fighting back. Once those two goals are achieved they can complete their agenda.

The Democrats aren't stupid. They know exactly what they're doing. This is why gun advocacy groups who continue to use the public safety argument against gun control will never succeed because it's not a public safety issue. Until gun advocacy groups and second amendment supporters in general start pointing out the fact that this is not about Public safety but about control nothing will change. Unfortunately, I don't see that happening. There are way too many gun owners with their heads in the sand to still think they're being persecuted because a bunch of criminals use firearms to commit crimes. Again, nothing could be further from the truth

 

[DC-W]

Historically, those who’ve been the loudest against gun control usually are for people control — how they identify, who they sleep with, what media they like, how they talk, what they do with their bodies, what they consume, where they live, what they look like (worries over things like white people becoming a minority…), etc… etc…

This is why I appreciate the work of groups like the Firearms Policy Coalition: https://www.supremecourt.gov/Docket...4758725_21-463 tsac WWH -amicus-FPC-final.pdf

 

[Ponder_MD]

I've long said that the US is turning into a giant HOA (Homeowner's Association) where citizens routinely rat each other out to "authorities" over trivial infractions rather than settle things like adults, and constantly try to control each other's behavior. Obviously I was being too lenient when I made the reference to HOA's. 1930's Germany seems more apt.

 

[Doctor_M]

I've long said that the US is turning into a giant HOA (Homeowner's Association) where citizens routinely rat each other out to "authorities" over trivial infractions rather than settle things like adults, and constantly try to control each other's behavior. Obviously I was being too lenient when I made the reference to HOA's. 1930's Germany seems more apt.

You are not wrong, my friend.