SB118 (2023) - Criminal Law – Prohibitions on Wearing, Carrying, or Transporting Firearms

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  • dblas

    Past President, MSI
    MDS Supporter
    Apr 6, 2011
    13,110
    SB118 - Criminal Law – Prohibitions on Wearing, Carrying, or Transporting Firearms

    Sponsor(s): Senators Lee and Waldstreicher

    Link to Bill: https://mgaleg.maryland.gov/2023RS/bills/sb/sb0118F.pdf

    Synopsis: FOR the purpose of prohibiting a person from wearing, carrying, or transporting a firearm on private property unless the owner of the property has given certain permission or posted a certain sign; prohibiting a person from wearing, carrying, or transporting a firearm in or on property controlled by the federal government, the State government, or a local government; and generally relating to prohibitions on the wearing, carrying, or transporting of firearms.
     

    CrueChief

    Cocker Dad/RIP Bella
    Apr 3, 2009
    3,057
    Napolis-ish
    Seems a really ambitious prosecutor could in their own mind make a case for it being illegal to wear or carry on most roads as they are gov't property after all.
     

    hodgepodge

    Senior Member (Gold)
    Sep 3, 2009
    10,100
    Arnold, MD
    We need a major slap-down in NY or NJ really soon. Not that Maryland will pay attention. They've been waiting to say "Hold my beer" for a while.
     

    USAF05

    Just one more gun...
    Sep 26, 2022
    336
    Andrews AF
    The way they wrote that means I as an active duty military member am exempted from it to and from work, but don't military members work on federal property? you already can't carry there anyway. Dumb
     

    beetles

    Active Member
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    Dec 19, 2021
    616
    SB118 - Criminal Law – Prohibitions on Wearing, Carrying, or Transporting Firearms

    Sponsor(s): Senators Lee and Waldstreicher

    Link to Bill: https://mgaleg.maryland.gov/2023RS/bills/sb/sb0118F.pdf

    Synopsis: FOR the purpose of prohibiting a person from wearing, carrying, or transporting a firearm on private property unless the owner of the property has given certain permission or posted a certain sign; prohibiting a person from wearing, carrying, or transporting a firearm in or on property controlled by the federal government, the State government, or a local government; and generally relating to prohibitions on the wearing, carrying, or transporting of firearms.
    Since when does Maryland have jurisdiction on federal property? That seems unconstitutional.
     

    Mark75H

    MD Wear&Carry Instructor
    Industry Partner
    MDS Supporter
    Sep 25, 2011
    17,260
    Outside the Gates
    There will be a lot to watch this session.

    A lot of overlapping bills that will need to be consolidated and they usually use that to slip in bad stuff.

    Seems like they all want to take credit for their unconstitutional schemes.
     

    delaware_export

    Ultimate Member
    Apr 10, 2018
    3,242
    At least they didn’t use an awesome acronym like…

    For Universal Carry - Empowering Marylanders - Acceptable Logical Limitations

    The FUC-EM-ALL act, with the usual exceptions

    or something like that…
     

    alucard0822

    For great Justice
    Oct 29, 2007
    17,711
    PA
    I think the only way this crap will stop is if pushing it is very expensive. Up here open carry while lawful was discouraged by police, and some jurisdictions pushed laws and policies to ban it despite state pre-emption. Suing police departments for enforcing it, with all but guaranteed wins coming after the case got pushed above the locality's court system ended the practice of harassing open carrying folk. At first there were few people willing to do it being you would get harassed most places, but eventually policies and laws changed because the courts were willing to assert their authority, and turn non-compliance into cash for test case after test case. IMO that is the only thing that will stop this buffoonery, being the politicians give 0 Fs about injuctions, or case law. They figure ruining someone's life while they defend themselves from an unconstitutional law still accomplishes the goals.
     

    lazarus

    Ultimate Member
    Jun 23, 2015
    13,741
    Not shocked, but for fucks sake.

    Also, BTW, by the reading of SB118, it bans firearm hunting on all local, state, and federal properties. ALL. Parks, state forests, etc. There are no exemptions to D in the bill.

    Also of note, it would also be illegal to go to a MDSP barracks to do a 77r, as you must bring the firearm there for them to inspect it.

    Bunch of idiots.

    As usual, this would effectively prohibit a firearm from going anywhere except your own personal property. You probably couldn't even go to most gun stores since ALL government property firearms are banned. Not on the streets. Not on the roads. Not in the parking lots.
     

    lazarus

    Ultimate Member
    Jun 23, 2015
    13,741
    Oi jeez. So, there goes much of the out of state hunting in Western Maryland and the Eastern Shore. You can no longer stay at lodgings with a firearm. Don't even have it locked in your vehicle in the parking lot.

    Also don't drive past any place to eat or stay.

    Also now anyone 20 and younger may not go hunting unless their parent of guardian is with them.
     

    Georges2nd

    Active Member
    Aug 30, 2022
    127
    Upper marlboro
    Oi jeez. So, there goes much of the out of state hunting in Western Maryland and the Eastern Shore. You can no longer stay at lodgings with a firearm. Don't even have it locked in your vehicle in the parking lot.

    Also don't drive past any place to eat or stay.

    Also now anyone 20 and younger may not go hunting unless their parent of guardian is with them.
    This would be injured party from communist regime
     

    Georges2nd

    Active Member
    Aug 30, 2022
    127
    Upper marlboro
    Oi jeez. So, there goes much of the out of state hunting in Western Maryland and the Eastern Shore. You can no longer stay at lodgings with a firearm. Don't even have it locked in your vehicle in the parking lot.

    Also don't drive past any place to eat or stay.

    Also now anyone 20 and younger may not go hunting unless their parent of guardian is with them.
    So now your license is only for us 926A only.
     

    beetles

    Active Member
    MDS Supporter
    Dec 19, 2021
    616
    At what point in deliberate refusal to comply does contempt of the Supreme Court become an issue?

    This administration isn't going to nationalize state guard to enforce federal law, but state government either complies with the law or it doesn't.
     

    holesonpaper

    Active Member
    Mar 10, 2017
    930
    Hazzard county

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    So 100 feet from any restaurant, cafeteria, lunchroom, soda fountain or other facility .. engaged in selling food....

    Nuts.. Look at all the crime they're preventing by proposing this legislation (sarcasm).
     

    SigMatt

    Ultimate Member
    Mar 17, 2007
    1,181
    Shores of the Bay, MD
    So suddenly after 20+ years with a permitting scheme that was told to be a "reasonable, common sense" approach to carry in Maryland they want to change the rules because the people are following the process they established?

    Oh, I get it! Too many law-abiding, compliant people in Maryland have permits now and that makes things somehow dangerous in the state going forward?

    I am tired of this. You ever notice that when a Supreme Court decision goes against our values we generally don't try to change the laws out of spite? We may grumble and complain but we usually accept the outcome and work with whatever that brings.

    These laws that ban practical carry and require permission to carry everywhere as default overturns 200+ years of accepted behavior. They were fine with it for decades and now they're not. The spiteful bitterness and anger is on display for all to see. These efforts are not for public safety and never will be. It is purely revenge against law-abiding people in Maryland who don't believe what they do.

    I thought I bought myself a few years of tolerance in this state. Apparently not.

    Matt
     

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