Saiga AK 47 Rifle

[netspec]

Need some help! Looking to purchase my first of 2 EBR (AK & AR) before the bans come!

I'm looking at this:

http://www.atlanticfirearms.com/beta/storeproduct708.aspx

I welcome your opinions/suggestions!

 

[Russ D]

Looks good but I know little about Saiga. I might consider getting one depending on the responses you get. I just read it doesn't except standard Ak mags. Whats up with that?

 

[fivepointstar]

I highly recommend the Saiga 7.62x39.....its one of the favorite rifles in my collection. Its light because it has a synthetic stock but it packs a punch and very accurate @ 100 yds. Only downfall is Mags are hard to find for it. If you can get an AK, mags are plentiful and I think a forum member is selling 30rd mags for $14/ea for outside MD sales

As far as an AR.....right now its easier to build it then find one for sale it seems. You'll save some $$ on the side which you can use to accessorize. I built one of my KISS AR's for @ $650. I went to Zero it on Mon and I did very little right out of the box.

 

[Numidian]

Looks good but I know little about Saiga. I might consider getting one depending on the responses you get. I just read it doesn't except standard Ak mags. Whats up with that?

Nothing that isn't easily fixed with a dremel tool. The magwell just needs to be opened up a little bit iirc

 

[Russ D]

Hmm perhaps it's time for an order. Does anyone local stock them?

 

[squig]

i'm sure this has been covered in another forum, but is the saiga regulated in MD? or is it cash and carry?

 

[jpk1md]

Need some help! Looking to purchase my first of 2 EBR (AK & AR) before the bans come!

I'm looking at this:

http://www.atlanticfirearms.com/beta/storeproduct708.aspx

I welcome your opinions/suggestions!

My suggestion would be to write a couple of letters to your State and Fed Reps to make SURE that a ban never comes before you rush out and buy those rifles.

Then do the same thing next month.....repeat until the Gun Grabbers are out of office.

YOU are the only one that is going to STOP the ban by making it so toxic an issue for legislators that they won't so much as THINK about supporting it because they know it will be political suicide.

 

[novus collectus]

i'm sure this has been covered in another forum, but is the saiga regulated in MD? or is it cash and carry?

I am pretty positive the rifle is regulated.

 

[squig]

thanks, and i should have specified the rifle part.

 

[MafiaConnected]

IIRC, all AK's are considered regulated in MD

 

[novus collectus]

IIRC, all AK's are considered regulated in MD

The Saiga 12 is a contentious issue. There is no consesus on if it is regulated or not because it is a shotgun and it does not have interchangeable parts with the specific AK-47 or its copies.
Some dealers will sell the Saiga 12 as unregulated.

 

[fivepointstar]

I am pretty positive the rifle is regulated.

I must be one of the lucky ones...I got my Saiga in Sept 08. The dealer said that its not considered an AK but a "sporting rifle" if I recall. I wasn't going to disagree, saved me $10 and 8 days. I filled the 4473 and took it home that night.

 

[novus collectus]

I must be one of the lucky ones...I got my Saiga in Sept 08. The dealer said that its not considered an AK but a "sporting rifle" if I recall. I wasn't going to disagree. I filled the 4473 and took it home that night.

That is why I was careful to say "pretty postive" because when it comes to Saigas, nothing really seems definite.

I swear, MD probably has the worst, poorly written laws in the nation.

 

[leroygibbs]

Saiga mags have integral bullet guides, and you'll notice the trunnion on the Saiga doestn't have that bullet guide (ramp? I don't know what the hell it is called). If your saiga can actually lock up with a "regular ak mag" then all you need to do is mod your rifle a little bit. To use standard AK mags, install a bullet guide into the top of the trunnion, and if you're really adventurous or cheap, crappy black pipe cut down works...

I have heard of others that needed mag wells hogged out, and some that had issues with the mag stabilizers, etcetera, but I actually haven't seen such animals, but I don't get out much either....

 

[Tweeter78]

fivepointstar check your pms

 

[Dizzy]

I found this website very useful when I was looking up Saiga's.
http://forum.saiga-12.com/

I ended up getting the Inter Ordinance Ak-47 instead simply because I didn't want to deal w/ modding the Saiga. I got mine from Dan's at Gun Connection along with 4 other mdshooter members here.

The Lancaster ak-47's have also gotten favorable reviews. Just giving out other options besides just Saiga.

 

[Numidian]

I highly recommend the Saiga 7.62x39.....its one of the favorite rifles in my collection. Its light because it has a synthetic stock but it packs a punch and very accurate @ 100 yds. Only downfall is Mags are hard to find for it. If you can get an AK, mags are plentiful and I think a forum member is selling 30rd mags for $14/ea for outside MD sales

As far as an AR.....right now its easier to build it then find one for sale it seems. You'll save some $$ on the side which you can use to accessorize. I built one of my KISS AR's for @ $650. I went to Zero it on Mon and I did very little right out of the box.

It wouldn't be too difficult to open that Saiga magwell up to take ak mags too

 

[FIREHAWK]

I found this website very useful when I was looking up Saiga's.
http://forum.saiga-12.com/

I ended up getting the Inter Ordinance Ak-47 instead simply because I didn't want to deal w/ modding the Saiga. I got mine from Dan's at Gun Connection along with 4 other mdshooter members here.

The Lancaster ak-47's have also gotten favorable reviews. Just giving out other options besides just Saiga.

i went with a american ak, i do want a saiga, but in 12ga or .223. i like the saiga rifles but i didn't feel like fooling with conversions. i figured its best to just wait and get a true saiga that isn't 7.62.

i shot the IO AK and then a Saiga .223 right after eachother and the AK was

 

[fivepointstar]

It wouldn't be too difficult to open that Saiga magwell up to take ak mags too

Numidian....I have small job for you!!! next time I see you bring some tools

 

[Jimbob2.0]

My understanding is that the Saiga conversion isnt to bad but the feedramp install takes some work beyond the kitchen table gunsmith to use standard AK mags.

As for regualted or unregulated it is a mess and they will have a hard time sorting it out. IF you can treat it as regulated you should just to avoid problems down the road (though this probably would be hard to prosecute alone). For example I thought a Sig 556 was regulated, but just had a dealer tell me it wasnt. Strange.........