Safes: go electronic?

[Boom Boom]

The safe guy in Frederick sells Summit. They seem to be a good safe. I think they run $2000 - $4000 depending on what you get.

They are built by the Heritage safe people and the Summit name is just painted on the door.

Very importantly, Summit was organized by business owners who sell safes, for the express purpose of offering better product than what those business owners can buy through standard distribution channels. That's why the name of the company is Summit Business Association.

Regardless, when you buy a safe, you are mainly buying the door. Forget fancy paint. Forget gimmicky doodads. Buy the best door, security, and fire ratings you can afford with the cheapest paint and no other options.

 

[Chris]

Over the years I have owned a few safes in my business-go with a better mechanical combo lock-never electronic or time locks. I have one safe that is lower value safe with a mechanical lock that is over 70 years old works like a charm every time. IMHO Chris

 

[NickZac]

Blue Dot has always been synonymous with garbage in the professional safe and vault industry. It is possible that they have begun importing a better grade of refuse, however.

Those I know with their high security models have not said anything but good things about them. I realize they aren't quite as well made as some other brands, but the prices are lower. Again, no idea about other models.

 

[NickZac]

Very importantly, Summit was organized by business owners who sell safes, for the express purpose of offering better product than what those business owners can buy through standard distribution channels. That's why the name of the company is Summit Business Association.

Regardless, when you buy a safe, you are mainly buying the door. Forget fancy paint. Forget gimmicky doodads. Buy the best door, security, and fire ratings you can afford with the cheapest paint and no other options.

Any chance they are working for higher quality fast-access safes? The limitation of many of the affordable models are substantial, and the DOJ has made this worse.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D2Wzt0vJvOI

 

[Merlin]

Very importantly, Summit was organized by business owners who sell safes, for the express purpose of offering better product than what those business owners can buy through standard distribution channels. That's why the name of the company is Summit Business Association.

Regardless, when you buy a safe, you are mainly buying the door. Forget fancy paint. Forget gimmicky doodads. Buy the best door, security, and fire ratings you can afford with the cheapest paint and no other options.

From what I can tell the summit safe look like good safes. And I know that they sales pitch the people connected with the Summit Business Association give you. The thing is the Summit Business Association makes nothing. Everything is contracted out. Often with price of manufacturing in mind to maximize profit margin.

Next month the Summit Business Association could decide there is more money to be made making umbrellas and stop making safes. I think it was 6 or so years ago the Summits safes were made by yet another safe manufacture before they went to Heritage safe company. I assume the other company raised their price and the a Summit Business Association got a better deal with Heritage safe Co. But for the last hand full of years the Summits safes have been made by the Haritage Safe Company that also makes a very good safe.

I'm just saying if Heritage safe company makes Summit safes, I rather just buy a Heritage safe because they are never making umbrellas.

 

[AliasNeo07]

I liked the dual entry systems on the Fort Knox safes. Has the electric keypad, but also has a dial in case the key pad fails.

That's what I was going to say also. You two safe guys, what do you think of them?

Hay! you can keep all of your gun safes. This is what you REALLY need!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cd0Bkju0eWs

That is awesome.

 

[Boom Boom]

I'm just saying if Heritage safe company makes Summit safes, I rather just buy a Heritage safe because they are never making umbrellas.

Rule #1: When you buy a safe, you are mainly buying the door. Do not spend good money on a safe until you know what to look for or find a trustworthy safe expert to quickly teach you. There's a good reason why Summit exists. It's not about profit. It's about prevention of unwise cost cutting for the sake of manufacturers being able to report increased margins to stockholders. If more manufacturers had less greed, then Summit would cease to exist. If you think Summit safes are simply re-branded price markups (like mattresses), then you are mistaken.