Dogabutila
Ultimate Member
- Dec 21, 2010
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Guys, just remember for your UT permits you need a MD one now.
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What's the scoop on "30 days" . I remember the language about to come into compliance or appeal.
What's that really mean , and when does the count start.
What's the scoop on "30 days" . I remember the language about to come into compliance or appeal.
What's that really mean , and when does the count start.
Supplemental to 54[RECAP] MOTION to Alter/Amend Judgment as permitted by 53[RECAP] Order on Motion for Summary Judgment,,,,, pursuant to Rule 59(e) MOTION for Other Relief Motion for Clarification pursuant to Rule 59(e) MOTION to Stay re 53[RECAP] Order on Motion for Summary Judgment,,,,, filed by Marcus L. Brown, Denis Gallagher, Seymour Goldstein, Charles M. Thomas, Jr. . (Attachments: # 1 Text of Proposed Order)(Fader, Matthew) (Entered: 03/09/2012)
On March 7, 2012, the defendants filed their Motion for Clarification or Amendment of Order and for Immediate Stay Pending Appeal (ECF No. 54). After filing the motion, defendants’ counsel received an e-mail from plaintiffs’ counsel requesting that the defendants supplement their filing by submitting a proposed order “addressing the clarification portion of [the] motion.”1
Plaintiffs’ counsel stated that in the absence of such a proposed order they did not know what the defendants were asking for. In response to plaintiffs’ counsel’s request, the defendants have prepared the attached draft order, which, as explained below, corresponds to one of two potential dispositions of the plaintiffs’ request for injunctive relief that the Court may have intended.
To the people encountering lines at Live Scan with other permit applicants:
Have you asked them if they're part of MSI/MDS? I'd be really interested in knowing how pervasive this forum and MSI are. If there are 8 people in line and 1 is MDS that's not a big sample size, but if a bunch of you post what you see we can come up with a slightly more significant statistic and take a WAG at actual numbers I'd love to see an interview with these Live Scan people telling how swamped they've been.
The first step in changing public sentiment is making it seem like everyone's doing it. In fact I think there's even an xkcd.com comic about that "peer consensus" or something.
So, if I understand it right, 57.1 is simply a form for Judge Legg to sign IF he agrees with that view/opinion. Right?
Defendants (MD AG's Office) just filed the following:
So, #57 leads you to their PROPOSED ORDER 57.1:
http://www.archive.org/download/gov.uscourts.mdd.180772/gov.uscourts.mdd.180772.57.1.pdf
Defendants (MD AG's Office) just filed the following:
http://www.archive.org/download/gov.uscourts.mdd.180772/gov.uscourts.mdd.180772.57.0.pdf
It's a mouthful, but its a Supplement to their Motion for Stay, clarifying what they want clarified...got that? First paragraph of #57 reads:
So, #57 leads you to their PROPOSED ORDER 57.1:
http://www.archive.org/download/gov.uscourts.mdd.180772/gov.uscourts.mdd.180772.57.1.pdf
So, #57 leads you to their PROPOSED ORDER 57.1:
http://www.archive.org/download/gov.uscourts.mdd.180772/gov.uscourts.mdd.180772.57.1.pdf
IANAL, so this is leading to some confusion on my part. As I read it, I am guessing they mean the following:
- Good and substantial is no longer allowed as a reason for denial.
- The Court never intended to tell MD to issue a permit.
- Since the plaintiffs did not ask for a declaratory injunction granting relief (i.e., Woollard's permit), MD does not have to issue it anyway.
Will one of the legal eagles correct me if my logic is, most admittedly likely, incorrect?
There are a lot of VA people applying. Gray is also applying.