SAF SUES IN MARYLAND OVER HANDGUN PERMIT DENIAL UPDATED 3-5-12

[Patrick]

MDShooters gets a mention and link on http://onlygunsandmoney.blogspot.com/2010/11/maryland-ag-asks-for-status-conference.html

Better yet, the blogger is now a member here.

 

[yellowsled]

#14 Was just posted..

http://www.archive.org/download/gov.uscourts.mdd.180772/gov.uscourts.mdd.180772.14.0.pdf

was this generated by the state, or did the judge rule that there will be a confrence?

 

[ezliving]

Gura argued against the need or justification for the status conference Gansler wanted and the judge's response was, "Oh, what the hell can it hurt?"

Not in the judge's chamber... Gansler gets to "phone it in" tomorrow.

 

[fightinbluhen51]

Gura argued against the need or justification for the status conference Gansler wanted and the judge's response was, "Oh, what the hell can it hurt?"

Not in the judge's chamber... Gansler gets to "phone it in" tomorrow.

I'd say that's a pseudo win for Gura and company since it isn't everything Gansler wanted. I am not surprised that the judge granted a status conference, that seems to be how these things normally play out anyways.

Kinda had some lightening fast discourse since last week!

 

[krucam]

Yeah, we have MTD's from the State, MSJ from SAF. A lot has happened for having absolutely nothing happening.

Tomorrow's TELCON is probably an expeditious way for the Judge to find out where the State is going I believe, whether they will address the initial Complaint, and probably telegraph to the parties whether the State's Younger Abstention, SAF Standing arguments are going to have any impact, particularly in the shadow of the recently filed MSJ by SAF.

A side bar, if you will...

Of course, I could be completely wrong...

 

[kronusthebonus]

Is the conference call open to the public ? Sort of how most major corporations hold quarterly results conference calls?

 

[Kharn]

Events in judges' chambers are not open for public viewing, the same for telecons.

 

[krucam]

Nothing on Pacer except this:

11/19/2010 Status Conference held on 11/19/2010 before Judge J. Frederick Motz. (mdw, Deputy Clerk) (Entered: 11/19/2010)

So now we wait...again...

 

[SkunkWerX]

Do we have any background on Judge Motz?

I could have easily missed it, but was wondering if we know what his track record may show?

edit; oh, well now, a Reagan nominee! Could be better than we may think?

 

[Patrick]

Do we have any background on Judge Motz?

I could have easily missed it, but was wondering if we know what his track record may show?

edit; oh, well now, a Reagan nominee! Could be better than we may think?

You are aware of Reagan's legacy when it comes to guns, right?

 

[Kharn]

AGNTSA.

 

[E.Shell]

AGNTSA.

I'm with you, good Republicans should bury this.

 

[Patrick]

AGNTSA.

Point is the judge was not appointed by anyone who felt 2A needed protection. That was the question asked, and this is the honest answer, regardless of how politically incorrect that answer might be. No drama required.

I'm with you, good Republicans should bury this.

IBID. No need for defensiveness. It was just a simple answer to a simple question. And frankly, forgetting history (even history we do not like), does not help us in the future. Even great people make mistakes, eh?

 

[Trapper]

...... And frankly, forgetting history (even history we do not like), does not help us in the future. Even great people make mistakes, eh?

+ infinity

 

[E.Shell]

...IBID. No need for defensiveness. It was just a simple answer to a simple question. And frankly, forgetting history (even history we do not like), does not help us in the future. Even great people make mistakes, eh?

Sorry Patrick, left off the 'sarcasm' icon and clouded my meaning.

 

[Patrick]

Got it. And I certainly do not want to drag up old arguments. Literally...we're 35 years out from that time.

Back to the case, I am assuming a loss at the district level but hopeful that Peruta and maybe one or two other cases might push us into the win column.

Note that I am trying to be more optimistic per Krucam's recent admonishment.

 

[chrisflhtc]

nvr mnd

 

[krucam]

Just uploaded Item 15 to the Docket.

Judge Motz's comments to the parties following the Conference last week.

November 22, 2010
MEMO TO COUNSEL RE: Raymond Woollard, et al. v. Terrence Sheridan, et al.
Civil No. JFM-10-2068

Dear Counsel:
This will confirm, as I ruled during the telephone conference held last week, that defendants need not respond to plaintiff’s summary judgment motion until I have ruled upon defendant’s motion to dismiss.
Very truly yours,
/s/
J. Frederick Motz
United States District Judge

So this is the result of the telephone conference. MD does not need to respond to the MSJ until Judge Motz decides on the MTD.

Something is in the works here...

 

[Squaredout]

Do you think something is "foul" in the state of Maryland?

 

[Inigoes]

Do you think something is "foul" in the state of Maryland?

Not afoul, looks like things are going to be set right in the first battle.

Don't worry, MD will appeal the ruling no matter what, if it's not in their favor.