SAF files for cert in Drake (NJ may-issue)

[Kharn]

Gura mentioned Pantano three times in his opening petition, I was wrong about the AG mentioning it.

 

[press1280]

Gura mentioned Pantano three times in his opening petition, I was wrong about the AG mentioning it.

I'll have to read that again. I don't recall if he mentioned it was at the NJSC or not. I'm sure he wouldn't have pointed to it as a possible case for SCOTUS to take though.

 

[yellowfin]

Gura mentioned Pantano three times in his opening petition, I was wrong about the AG mentioning it.

That turned out to be a self inflicted head wound, didn't it?

 

[press1280]

That turned out to be a self inflicted head wound, didn't it?

Tough to tell unless they actually do take this case.

 

[Kharn]

That turned out to be a self inflicted head wound, didn't it?

You can either ignore the case, and get side-swiped by the other side talking about it, or you can bring it up first and make the discussion start on your terms.

 

[ryan_j]

Almeida had his hearing today and was denied.

The judge basically said that he could find another job (give up his property management business) or hire a security firm.

His opinion was that a gun in the hand of a good guy will only escalate the situation and make you more of a target. He then denied the permit.

 

[DC-W]

Wow.

 

[OrbitalEllipses]

Almeida had his hearing today and was denied.

The judge basically said that he could find another job (give up his property management business) or hire a security firm.

His opinion was that a gun in the hand of a good guy will only escalate the situation and make you more of a target. He then denied the permit.

Wow. I can't even fathom how that's okay.

 

[Inigoes]

Almeida had his hearing today and was denied.

The judge basically said that he could find another job (give up his property management business) or hire a security firm.

His opinion was that a gun in the hand of a good guy will only escalate the situation and make you more of a target. He then denied the permit.

Wow.

Wow. I can't even fathom how that's okay.

This mind-set is typical of the liberals, government knows best!

 

[ryan_j]

This is how it works in NJ. YOu aren't allowed to do anything unless some crony benefits.

 

[swinokur]

Tony Soprano wasn't the only crook in NJ.

 

[press1280]

Under those standards, no one should ever get a permit again in NJ (aside from the retired LEO and armored car exceptions). If you work security, get another job. If a gangbanger targets you, move to another state.
Has Almeida petitioned the NJ SC for review yet?

 

[ryan_j]

Under those standards, no one should ever get a permit again in NJ (aside from the retired LEO and armored car exceptions). If you work security, get another job. If a gangbanger targets you, move to another state.
Has Almeida petitioned the NJ SC for review yet?

Not yet. He literally walked out of court a couple hours ago.

This is not uncommon actually. They tell everyone to hire armed security. Armed security, by the way, are one of the few people who get carry permits. But most of them are ex LEO. They even waive the SORA training requirements for LEO. The whole system is setup to ensure that the police has a monopoly on guns, per Jim Florio's promise.

 

[press1280]

Not yet. He literally walked out of court a couple hours ago.

This was an appeals court or a single judge?

 

[ryan_j]

This was an appeals court or a single judge?

Superior court, just a single judge.

Next stop would be the appeals court. He may or may not appeal. It just seems like an uphill battle from here.

 

[Maestro Pistolero]

I would start a security firm. Be the CEO, be the only employee who is a certified and licensed security guard, and my only client is my property management company. Suck it!

 

[press1280]

Superior court, just a single judge.

Next stop would be the appeals court. He may or may not appeal. It just seems like an uphill battle from here.

It is for sure, although we can't leave any stone unturned right now. But it costs money to appeal unfortunately. Plus, Pantano is already ahead of this case.

 

[ryan_j]

I would start a security firm. Be the CEO, be the only employee who is a certified and licensed security guard, and my only client is my property management company. Suck it!

Wonderful plan, except that NJ sealed off that exit as well.

In order to operate a security company, one needs a private investigator license. To obtain such a license, one has to have a minimum of 5 years experience in an organized police department OR 5 years of documented investigative experience, which usually means working with a private detective agency.

 

[Brooklyn]

Wonderful plan, except that NJ sealed off that exit as well.

In order to operate a security company, one needs a private investigator license. To obtain such a license, one has to have a minimum of 5 years experience in an organized police department OR 5 years of documented investigative experience, which usually means working with a private detective agency.

How do they handle bounty hunters?

Personally I think we should just give every violent offender in the nation a free bus ticket to NJ NY CA and MD.

Its not like they aren't coming eventually..

 

[swinokur]

How do they handle bounty hunters?

Personally I think we should just give every violent offender in the nation a free bus ticket to NJ NY CA and MD.

Its not like they aren't coming eventually..

Don't forget the heart of our Democracy.

DC