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  • Which?

    • .223 Cheap. You ain't shootin' no deer.

      Votes: 20 55.6%
    • 7.62x39 Cheap. You can legally hunt with it, just not around here.

      Votes: 8 22.2%
    • .350 Legend Less Cheap. Good for regional hunting options too.

      Votes: 5 13.9%
    • Other

      Votes: 21 58.3%

    • Total voters
      36

    4g64loser

    Bad influence
    Jan 18, 2007
    6,553
    maryland
    For what it's worth I would start with a .223 bolt rifle. Can shoot for hours and won't beat you up, as I aged I no longer enjoy recoil so spend most of my time messing around with the 22 varmint calibers.
    I tend to buy used, many fine accurate varmint rifles have been made over the years and can be found for reasonable prices. Just one example is the Winchester Model 70 Heavy Varmint, made in the 1990's with a Wilson barrel and HS Precision stock, they have a reputation for accuracy, they were available in 5 calibers, mine is .223.
    You can spend a lot of quality time at the 100 yard range tailoring loads to shoot small groups and if the opportunity presents itself can easily take a .223 out to 600 yards with the right loads.



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    Love some classic varmint rifles.

    Don't count 223 out past 600 though. Did a prs tactical division custom rig for a buddy using a 7twist shilen and a long throat reamer print. 77 rdf noslers are in the 2.4" area seated to lands. Wicked shooter. It sees 1000yd airtime regularly. Spotting hits can be challenging but it's good training. Thinking about doing another one for myself.
     

    RFBfromDE

    W&C MD, UT, PA
    MDS Supporter
    Aug 21, 2022
    12,750
    The Land of Pleasant Living
    Some states allow hunting with a 223 - I know when I was a kid my Dad took a deer with a Sako Vixen in 223, although I wouldn’t recommend hunting anything bigger.

    As for a rifle, a Ruger American Predator would be nicely accurate and wouldn’t break the bank - you wouldn’t have to do a build like mine.
    Being a Ruger Fan Boy that is generally the direction I go!

    I do likes my wood though…
     

    steves1911

    Ultimate Member
    Dec 2, 2011
    3,052
    On a hill in Wv
    Go 223 for simplicity and availability. My 9yr old has harvested a couple deer with his little ruger American ranch and handloaded 62gr Speer gold dots(federal fusion)
     

    Rockzilla

    Ultimate Member
    Feb 6, 2010
    4,562
    55.751244 / 37.618423
    Range rifle.... distances?
    22LR Bolt Action ... Rem 541T, 581, 40X or Belgium Browning T-Bolt, Winchester 52
    5.56.. Bolt Action or *cough * AR clone or my ole Rem 788 223
    7.62 Match M1A(s) or Bolt guns on 700 Actions

    500+
    Barrett 82.. just for fun
    TRG.42 338LM..for fun
    Other Bolt Guns
    There are some others..keep n it simple

    Most hunting I used to do was with
    The Contender, 30 Herrett, 357 Herrett or the 375 JDJ.

    -Rock
     
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    TwinTurbskis

    professional amateur
    Jun 9, 2020
    295
    Derwood, MD
    Get Ed Harren to take care of that for you. He doesn't post much but he's on the boards as DocEd. He's in imams ijamsville, not too far from you. He turns the 527s into some wicked shooters. When the actions were available readily he would do PPCs on them.
    Thanks for the tip! I'm going to reach out to him.
     

    dist1646

    Ultimate Member
    May 1, 2012
    8,809
    Eldersburg
    For what it's worth I would start with a .223 bolt rifle. Can shoot for hours and won't beat you up, as I aged I no longer enjoy recoil so spend most of my time messing around with the 22 varmint calibers.
    I tend to buy used, many fine accurate varmint rifles have been made over the years and can be found for reasonable prices. Just one example is the Winchester Model 70 Heavy Varmint, made in the 1990's with a Wilson barrel and HS Precision stock, they have a reputation for accuracy, they were available in 5 calibers, mine is .223.
    You can spend a lot of quality time at the 100 yard range tailoring loads to shoot small groups and if the opportunity presents itself can easily take a .223 out to 600 yards with the right loads.



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    I have one of those too. .223, 1-9 twist factory barrel that is deadly accurate with 69gr bullets. Mine sports a 10X Leupold w/ target knobs.
     

    Mark75H

    MD Wear&Carry Instructor
    Industry Partner
    MDS Supporter
    Sep 25, 2011
    17,260
    Outside the Gates
    If OP starts with a .22 and becomes proficient, he will save enough to buy his 350 Legend rifle that he will actually be able to shoot without wasting money. I have a $200 set up that shoots 1.5 MOA. It’s ugly as sh!t, but it gets the job done
     

    jimbobborg

    Oddball caliber fan
    Aug 2, 2010
    17,126
    Northern Virginia
    Get a nice .357 lever gun, preferalby a Winchester 92 clone made by Italians. New Marlins and used Marlins are stupid expensive, Italian clones are under $600 when a new batch gets shipped in. Very little recoil and with .38 Special, a lot cheaper to shoot versus rifle calibers. Plus if you ever shoot indoors, pistol caliber carbines are generally allowed. Plus they're pretty quiet to shoot.
     

    Brent

    #2ALivesMatter
    Nov 22, 2013
    2,668
    Amongst the Deplorables, SC.
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    .223 bolt gun is my vote aside from a .22lr. .223 is very easy to shoot well, doesn’t bust up the wallet too badly, and is a whole lot of fun!

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    alucard0822

    For great Justice
    Oct 29, 2007
    17,711
    PA
    much depends on the range rules and targets. Personally if it's on my property or a range without BS rules, a few steel plates and a 9mm PCC are the most fun. Paper targets, 100 yards only, slow fire rules etc, that is where I enjoy mil-surps or a 22 target rifle. Centerfire bolt actions are kind of wasted that close.
     

    trickg

    Guns 'n Drums
    MDS Supporter
    Jul 22, 2008
    14,725
    Glen Burnie
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    .223 bolt gun is my vote aside from a .22lr. .223 is very easy to shoot well, doesn’t bust up the wallet too badly, and is a whole lot of fun!

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    Cool pic! Seems to be pretty accurate too. If memory serves, that's a Tikka T3x Super Varmint topped with an Arken EP5, right?
     

    Brent

    #2ALivesMatter
    Nov 22, 2013
    2,668
    Amongst the Deplorables, SC.
    Cool pic! Seems to be pretty accurate too. If memory serves, that's a Tikka T3x Super Varmint topped with an Arken EP5, right?

    Yessir! It has impressed the hell out of me with 77gr pills. I’d hardly even call it shot in. Maybe a couple hundred through it. Haven’t even started hand loading yet. It flat out performs. Great trigger.


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    trickg

    Guns 'n Drums
    MDS Supporter
    Jul 22, 2008
    14,725
    Glen Burnie
    Yessir! It has impressed the hell out of me with 77gr pills. I’d hardly even call it shot in. Maybe a couple hundred through it. Haven’t even started hand loading yet. It flat out performs. Great trigger.
    I can't shoot anything heavier than about 60 gr from mine - the twist is too slow - but I'd be interested to see how my build fares against that rifle because if your rifle performs right up there with mine, I may have needlessly thrown money at a build that I may not have had to spend. I will say that if I'm having a good day and conditions are good, at 100 yards mine is so on the money it's almost comical.
     

    Brent

    #2ALivesMatter
    Nov 22, 2013
    2,668
    Amongst the Deplorables, SC.
    I can't shoot anything heavier than about 60 gr from mine - the twist is too slow - but I'd be interested to see how my build fares against that rifle because if your rifle performs right up there with mine, I may have needlessly thrown money at a build that I may not have had to spend. I will say that if I'm having a good day and conditions are good, at 100 yards mine is so on the money it's almost comical.

    It’s all in the journey my friend! I’m sure you have one hell of a fine rifle. I make up some velocity from the almost 24” barrel! It does get funny / scary accurate at 100y. I’m eager to stretch it further.


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    trickg

    Guns 'n Drums
    MDS Supporter
    Jul 22, 2008
    14,725
    Glen Burnie
    It’s all in the journey my friend! I’m sure you have one hell of a fine rifle. I make up some velocity from the almost 24” barrel! It does get funny / scary accurate at 100y. I’m eager to stretch it further.
    I'll have to pick up another barrel with a faster twist if I really want to reach out - the lightweight bullets I use probably don't lend themselves to reaching out - they are just a bit too light to buck wind effectively. I really haven't tried to stretch mine past 100. I keep saying I'm going to hit the 200 yard range at ACG, but I haven't done it yet.

    My rifle is a helluva rifle though - it's a Bighorn action with a 26" Shilen match grade varmint weight barrel, KRG Bravo chassis, a TriggerTech trigger and an Arken EP5 Scope. If it isn't accurate, it sure as heck ain't the rifle! (that might still be the Arken SH4 scope I had on it originally.)

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    Brent

    #2ALivesMatter
    Nov 22, 2013
    2,668
    Amongst the Deplorables, SC.
    I'll have to pick up another barrel with a faster twist if I really want to reach out - the lightweight bullets I use probably don't lend themselves to reaching out - they are just a bit too light to buck wind effectively. I really haven't tried to stretch mine past 100. I keep saying I'm going to hit the 200 yard range at ACG, but I haven't done it yet.

    My rifle is a helluva rifle though - it's a Bighorn action with a 26" Shilen match grade varmint weight barrel, KRG Bravo chassis, a TriggerTech trigger and an Arken EP5 Scope. If it isn't accurate, it sure as heck ain't the rifle! (that might still be the Arken SH4 scope I had on it originally.)

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    That’s a damn fine rig! Nice selections! Boring guns are great guns!


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