PSA - BWMC installing gun detectors

[Lafayette]

I heard a rumor from a friend that starting next week, BWMC (the old North Arundel Hospital) will be installing the “pylon” style weapon detectors from Evolv https://www.evolvtechnology.com/ at the ED entrance due to recent incidents with weapons being found on campus. If a weapon is detected, the visitor/patient will be searched.

This will be sticky situation. Under federal law patients can’t be turned away from an emergency room, but it’s also currently illegal under SB1 to carry in the hospital.

 

[Dataluss]

Why ?? Do folks walk into hospitals with guns/knives etc. etc. and/or do something CRAZY often ?

 

[CrueChief]

Why ?? Do folks walk into hospitals with guns/knives etc. etc. and/or do something CRAZY often ?

Probably not but they can ban a huge amount of places by using just one word, " hospitals"

 

[Biggfoot44]

Often is subjective . But more than you would think in ER's .

 

[BurkeM]

Why ?? Do folks walk into hospitals with guns/knives etc. etc. and/or do something CRAZY often ?

All too often.

Shooters have been known to follow an ambulance into the ER to finish off a victim who survived the street shooting.

Also Domestic Violence- abusers have hunted down a victim to eliminate the 'threat.'

 

[Threeband]

What do the do if a car crash victim has a holstered G43 on his person?

 

[Lafayette]

What do the do if a car crash victim has a holstered G43 on his person?

I believe protocol for the ambulance (but some EMS will have to confirm) is not to do anything until police clear the scene and secure the gun.

 

[BurkeM]

What do the do if a car crash victim has a holstered G43 on his person?

EMS will use these -medical shears- to examine everyone.

And render the patient "trauma naked" before loading and transporting any victim.

EMS will find the holster and pistol and immediately notify police on scene.

The firearm is NOT going in the ambulance - 99.5% of the time.

 

[Phoenix_1295]

What do the do if a car crash victim has a holstered G43 on his person?

EMS advises PD and PD take possession of firearm at scene. I have had a couple occasions where an MVC victim was armed (some civilian, some on/off duty LEO’s). On scene PD take posesssion. Pretty common operation.

 

[Dataluss]

What do the do if a car crash victim has a holstered G43 on his person?

All too often.

Shooters have been known to follow an ambulance into the ER to finish off a victim who survived the street shooting.

Also Domestic Violence- abusers have hunted down a victim to eliminate the 'threat.'

HUH ???
Any proof of that statement ??? I'd have to google that..... NOT sure of that ‍♂️EXCEPT CHICAGO....LA....NYC....etc.... (coincidently all democratic city/states) CERTAINLY as AMERICANS WE should be allowed to PROTECT OURSELVES from CRAZIES ANYWHERE.... ALWAYS ‍♂️‍♂️‍♂️

 

[BurkeM]

HUH ???
Any proof of that statement ??? I'd have to google that..... NOT sure of that ‍♂️EXCEPT CHICAGO....LA....NYC....etc.... (coincidently all democratic city/states) And CERTAINLY as AMERICANS WE should be allowed to PROTECT OURSELVES from these CRAZIES ANYWHERE.... ALWAYS ‍♂️‍♂️‍♂️

Proof of what?

 

[Blaster229]

Proof of what?

Well, these really are exceptional scenarios, certainly around these parts. Definitely not what they were thinking when making the decision to install them.

 

[Blaster229]

Unarmed security guards going up against bad guys with guns. Makes sense.

 

[Biggfoot44]

Hit man completing a hit is an exceptional circumstance.

Spill overs from bar fights , domestic fights , and gang fights are common.

Drunk and/ or stoned patients getting violent and out of control is just a Tuesday night . ( Either from their wasted condition itself , or misadventures while wasted .)

Junkies threatening staff to either get a scrip , or steal drugs is just a Wensday night .

 

[Lafayette]

Unarmed security guards going up against bad guys with guns. Makes sense.

Truth. The only people they will disarm peacefully have no ill-intent.

Bad guy with a gun? Unarmed security is going to have a bad time.

 

[BurkeM]

Well, these really are exceptional scenarios, certainly around these parts. Definitely not what they were thinking when making the decision to install them.

Correct - one anecdote is enough to terrify 10,000 hospital administrators.

Like the shoe-bomb did to TSA.

 

[Blaster229]

Correct - one anecdote is enough to terrify 10,000 hospital administrators.

Like the shoe-bomb did to TSA.

Not the same thing.

 

[beetles]

Well, these really are exceptional scenarios, certainly around these parts. Definitely not what they were thinking when making the decision to install them.

Having trained in "these parts," violence in the E.D. is not unheard-of. Some hospitals have fully armed police and in-department lockups.

 

[Blaster229]

Having trained in "these parts," violence in the E.D. is not unheard-of. Some hospitals have fully armed police and in-department lockups.

I didn't say violence. I was quoting his 2 very rare and highly unlikely scenarios.
What have you "trained"? What's what mean?

 

[beetles]

I didn't say violence. I was quoting his 2 very rare and highly unlikely scenarios.
What have you "trained"? What's what mean?

I am a physician, and I was referring to hospital resident training.