Price Gouging Reference

[Rivera]

btw...i'm taking about those wanted $500 for lower or $2K for an AR they bought for $700.

difference b/n reasonable price and gouging. thats why its called gouging

+1 but if any budy is interested in a bushmaster plane jane for 3000

 

[OEH]

While we all spend our hours getting our boxers in bunch crying and infighting in our forum..the liberals are forming their alliences and watching with joy as our cracks widen..

I'm much more shocked that this post went by without comment.

 

[stu929]

Guess I need to list all my still in the wrapper pmags from 4 years ago. Lol

 

[BillNyeScienceGuy]

I bet you guys who own homes with equity turn that down too. Calling someones character into question for selling THEIR OWN property is socialist ********. All of this bitching and whining from gun owners makes me think many of them are commies I swear.

+1!!

 

[Docster]

I think what many people are failing to realize is that guns, ammunition and parts are commodities. Like gold, coffee, fossil fuels, etc. Some people have the foresight to stock up on these items knowing that in time of shortage, crisis, or perceived crisis, they will go up in value. Would I be an a-hole for selling silver I bought five years ago for today's market price? I also bought some arms and ammo just as an investment knowing that when something like this happens I can sell for profit.

That being said I currently have not offered anything for sale and I just sold a close friend of case of .223 for $175 because he is like a brother to me. Anyone else and it would have been 3 times that. For the most part while these are commodities, they are commidities of luxury (at least for now). It's not like you are throwing a destitute old lady out on the street or causing kids to go hungry to line your pockets.

Well said. I said the same in another thread. Everyone's getting their panties in a wad over this panic buying. If particular guns and ammo were a high priority then the smart folks had stocked up; if other priorities arose and they spent their time and money elsewhere, so be it. Right now if prices are too high for you, don't buy, period. If someone else is making money, too bad! Stop being childish and jealous, or sell some of your stuff and make a lot of money!!

Or make a Blacklist of people making money so you won't do business with them ever again, that is, until they are the only ones with what you want when you want it.

This shooting in Ct was just the tipping point. Who didn't know that Obama's agenda for his second term was an AWB and other restrictions, 'under the radar'???? Those who acted on that knowledge early are probably ahead of the game, ya think?

We're not talking the moral dilemma of food and water after a hurricane here.

Sorry about coming across this way, but all this bitching about price gouging, etc from people who espouse freedom and rights so much is getting old. It is what it is--American free enterprise, free markets experiencing a panic buying situation IN ONE MARKET created by the BUYERS (that's us!!) not anyone else. The sellers are just responding as any seller in a free market should and would. They have the right to do that, and we have the right to buy now or stand on the sidelines and let the market return to normalcy.

 

[teratos]

Well said. I said the same in another thread. Everyone's getting their panties in a wad over this panic buying. If particular guns and ammo were a high priority then the smart folks had stocked up; if other priorities arose and they spent their time and money elsewhere, so be it. Right now if prices are too high for you, don't buy, period. If someone else is making money, too bad! Stop being childish and jealous, or sell some of your stuff and make a lot of money!!

Or make a Blacklist of people making money so you won't do business with them ever again, that is, until they are the only ones with what you want when you want it.

This shooting in Ct was just the tipping point. Who didn't know that Obama's agenda for his second term was an AWB and other restrictions, 'under the radar'???? Those who acted on that knowledge early are probably ahead of the game, ya think?

We're not talking the moral dilemma of food and water after a hurricane here.

Sorry about coming across this way, but all this bitching about price gouging, etc from people who espouse freedom and rights so much is getting old. It is what it is--American free enterprise, free markets experiencing a panic buying situation IN ONE MARKET created by the BUYERS (that's us!!) not anyone else. The sellers are just responding as any seller in a free market should and would. They have the right to do that, and we have the right to buy now or stand on the sidelines and let the market return to normalcy.

I agree with free market stuff. It is still my 1A right to think you are an asshat if you post an $80 lower on MDS for $500.

If people would take the time to actually read what most of us are saying, you would realize everyone agrees on that. We just don't like to see one member of our community trying to take advantage of another.

 

[hdatontodo]

I agree with free market stuff. It is still my 1A right to think you are an asshat if you post an $80 lower on MDS for $500.

If people would take the time to actually read what most of us are saying, you would realize everyone agrees on that. We just don't like to see one member of our community trying to take advantage of another.

A contract between a willing buyer and a willing seller is hardly the seller taking avantage of the buyer. If the buyer feels it is worth it to him at that given moment, and he has the funds and buys it, so be it. If the seller never posted, the buyer would have one fewer option from which to choose. How is it providing a disservice to offer an option from which someone can select, or not.

 

[teratos]

A contract between a willing buyer and a willing seller is hardly the seller taking avantage of the buyer. If the buyer feels it is worth it to him at that given moment, and he has the funds and buys it, so be it. If the seller never posted, the buyer would have one fewer option from which to choose. How is it providing a disservice to offer an option from which someone can select, or not.

RIF

 

[Name Taken]

If the market bears someone making a grand on a purchase they made less then two months ago that's great.

People putting up something insane hoping to find a fool is kind of being a dick.

I have a true AR package with near 3 grand in it. If I put it on for 6k like other people have been doubling their money am I a dick if someone buys it? I dont think so....just dont buy it. If I needed the cash you could offer less.

If anyone saw this coming they would have bought High Rock Outfitters out of their HBARS at 1050 that he was asking for COLTS......could of would of should of.

I can see an ad and think you are a dick. In the same token no one is forcing anyone to buy a 2k dollar 1k dollar rifle or a 500 dollar lower. So take it for what it is.

IP's are in a different world. Why blow out your stock UBER low when you know the next shipment is going to cost you 20-60% more. Kind of hard to run a business like that.

 

[Jasonshooter]

This shit is crazy !! I believe we have a few rapist on the form ?

 

[F-Stop]

Always have friends into firearms! I just sold a complete lower to a friend for $200. Lower, parts, stock, buffer.

 

[Docster]

I agree with free market stuff. It is still my 1A right to think you are an asshat if you post an $80 lower on MDS for $500.

If people would take the time to actually read what most of us are saying, you would realize everyone agrees on that. We just don't like to see one member of our community trying to take advantage of another.

No argument there. I think we're all on the same page about MDS members, but just like any other family, there's always a (few) black sheep. When a crisis arises, most family sticks together yet there's always a few who can't fight the urge to go the 'everyone for themselves' route, even when the crisis is likely to be temporary. There a a couple of threads going now about price gouging, etc that are just filled with gripes. This is an opportunity to learn about not only being properly prepared for the unexpected but about who (and who isn't) there to support one when the going gets rough. The griping gets us nowhere.

 

[doofoo]

I'm just glad that a member here (I won't mention his name, but he can come forward if he would like) who sold me a Sub2k .40S&W this week didn't rape me. I PM'd him when he said he had it for sale, I made an offer which ended up being a $50 profit for him (plus a 6 pack of beer).

He had offers that morning of $150-200 more, and was looking at probably $400-500+ more profit if he would have put it on Gunbroker. Stand up guy, and looking back now at how he treated me - I think I owe him another 6 pack of beer.

I'll PM him after the holidays.

 

[Sirex]

I'm just glad that a member here (I won't mention his name, but he can come forward if he would like) who sold me a Sub2k .40S&W this week didn't rape me. I PM'd him when he said he had it for sale, I made an offer which ended up being a $50 profit for him (plus a 6 pack of beer).

He had offers that morning of $150-200 more, and was looking at probably $400-500+ more profit if he would have put it on Gunbroker. Stand up guy, and looking back now at how he treated me - I think I owe him another 6 pack of beer.

I'll PM him after the holidays.

A lot of people on the Keltec forums and Armslist have been looking all over for a Sub2000, so yeah maybe another 6 pack of beer, or maybe a nice box of wine.

It's all got me thinking about selling my Keltec SU16CA now....................

 

[photoracer]

Worst example I have heard of is from the Gun Store in Frederick. They had an $800 AR, the only one they had in stock last week. So they bumped the price up to $3000. They sold it to some panic-striken fool within 3 days.
Personally I have 2, both assembled by me. One is my 3-gun AR, a Stag 3GH upper and an Aero-Precision lower I bought partially assembled. I likely have about $1200 in it not counting the scope. The second was a spur of the moment deal where I decided I needed one as an extended HD weapon, so I scrimped on everything. Cheap DPMS Sportical upper on sale for $375 at MidwayUSA and a fully assembled polymer Frontier Arms lower for $129. Once I got the gun assembled for about $530 I decided it needed some changes. Replaced the hand guard with a Samson EVO 7", the plastic trigger with an RRA NM trigger, and the stock with a Mako GLR16 that was on sale at MidwayUSA. Added a few parts I had laying around like a metal RH safety assembly, a set of KNS trigger pins, a leftover TruGlo red dot, and a tactical light I originally bought for one of my 15-22s. So now I may have $850-$900 in it. Even though today I could likely sell it for $1500 in todays market it would cost too much to replace. Just wish I had bought a couple more lowers so I could have built a couple more just to sell.

 

[km04]

I wonder if people calling others gougers, ever wasted a Gun Shop Owners time finger screwing everything and then going to another shop to save $20.00.

I guess I should have given away my Gunsmithing Services to everyone in the past, after all, I charged too much even though Smiths are in short supply. Im mean after all, people love guns and it would be wrong to make a profit, oh but too much is BAD. I wonder who gets to decide how much "profit" is "fair" if the Free Market dosent. Oh, I know the Comrades will..............

Sound like Nancy Pelosi.

Umm.. HELL YES...and you should have PM'd me first letting me know...

 

[R81]

Saw two RRA stripped lowers for sale, consecutive serial numbers, for $1400.

 

[Oldcarjunkie]

Saw two RRA stripped lowers for sale, consecutive serial numbers, for $1400.

That's a rip! I have two consecutive serial # LRB lowers I'd sell for the low low price of 1300.00.. But only to you guys..

 

[BenL]

Noveske lower. Just the lower. $2025.

http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Item=322849470

 

[teratos]

Noveske lower. Just the lower. $2025.

http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Item=322849470

That's f'ing crazy!! I have a nice Sun Devil lower in the safe....I wonder if I can get $1500 out of it......