Pistol Grip Fail

[GunnerGunz]

So I was seeing what different brass catchers are available and ran into this video. Check out the pistol grip this guy uses. He needs help quickly. I do give him credit for the home made brass catcher.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lzq6lq4oPwA

 

[outrider58]

Looked like he swept down the firing line just out of frame at the end too.

 

[Mdeng]

Oy Vey

Check out the grip used my most of the top competitive shooters.

Rob Latham
Dave Sevigney

 

[ericoak]

Does Jerry have his left hand in front the trigger guard?

 

[Sev89]

Not sure how it's a fail. I see people shoot like that all the time at the range.

 

[Mdeng]

Does Jerry have his left hand in front the trigger guard?

Yes he does. He puts his supporthand index finger and middle finger along the trigger guard. This gives him leverage on the gun to help control muzzle flip. It doesn't work for everyone but you can't argue with his scores and speed.

 

[drewhall]

Thats how Ive been shooting, with reccomendation of use by people that have been shooting far longer than I have

 

[GunnerGunz]

OK then, never seen this grip before. Looked to be too close to the slide to me and figured if the fingers hit the slide could flip the gun out of his hands.

 

[Magnumite]

Most likely incident would be malfunctions. The individuals pictured are pros so their grios are highly honed to perfection. If they do 'ride the slide' they probsbly have a paddle off the msinspring housing. Some have gone to a slide stop with a lever to place their thb on.

 

[drewhall]

I thought the same thing, my thumbs would cause an issue. Has not been the case so far.

 

[outrider58]

Oy Vey

Check out the grip used my most of the top competitive shooters.

Rob Latham
Dave Sevigney

These guys all have one thing in common, low thumbs. The guy in the video had his thumbs pointing diagonally upward. It's like trying to hold on to something tightly while only using half your thumb. I understand there are people who can shoot fine with this style, but in this guy's case, you can see the gun trying to hop up out of his "open" grasp. There was one sequence where he had his thumbs low pointing straight forward and he seemed to have a little more control over the recoil.

 

[inkd]

Yes he does. He puts his supporthand index finger and middle finger along the trigger guard. This gives him leverage on the gun to help control muzzle flip. It doesn't work for everyone but you can't argue with his scores and speed.

It also helps that he has hands like a catchers mitt.

 

[Lloyd]

These guys all have one thing in common, low thumbs. The guy in the video had his thumbs pointing diagonally upward. It's like trying to hold on to something tightly while only using half your thumb. I understand there are people who can shoot fine with this style, but in this guy's case, you can see the gun trying to hop up out of his "open" grasp. There was one sequence where he had his thumbs low pointing straight forward and he seemed to have a little more control over the recoil.

Agreed

...and if take notice, the guy in the video had a failure to fire, but quickly corrected it (about the 40 second mark).

I rely on a 1911 for HD and I had a similar grip and after practice I switched it up for that reason. I have an elevated grip safety as well and I still would have the issue of not engaging it fully with that grip. I since adopter the thumb forward approach - however unnatural it feels

 

[somd_mustangs]

It also helps that he has hands like a catchers mitt.

yeah, I was thinking the same thing. some serious meathooks there!

 

[Mdeng]

I was introduced to the high thumb grip by another instructor 15 years ago. I questioned it just like many of you are. This instructor has won numerous international leo competitions and suggested that before I try to discourage it's use that I give it a try. I have been using this grip with great success ever since. It may not work for everyone but you never know until you try it. Remember the slide moves to the rear and never makes a left hand turn into my thumbs.

 

[lx1x]

Y'all wrong.. dis ya do in de hood yo!

 

[somd_mustangs]

crotch protection is always important.

(that's a hilarious video)

 

[AliasNeo07]

What's wrong with his grip?

 

[smokey]

Ok, I'll submit my grip from a little bit ago with the m&p45.

 

[outrider58]

Ok, I'll submit my grip from a little bit ago with the m&p45.

What's not to like?

To me, the grip question is the same as asking which is better, 9mm or .45. It all depends on the person on the trigger, right?