Oct1 again..

[somd_brad]

Sorry guys buy i am hearing info thats differnt than what I thought was correct.

I own regulated firearms, to purchase new handgun after oct1 do I need training etc or no?? Or do I just buy as I normally have been??

 

[mdram]

you will still need an HQL

 

[Inigoes]

Since you already own regulated firearms, you do not need training.

However, you will still need to be finger printed, and get a Handgun Qualification License

 

[somd_brad]

Thanks guys... what is the deal with HQL what will do for that?

 

[daggo66]

Thanks guys... what is the deal with HQL what will do for that?

A set of fingerprints and a background check. Probably some kind of form that currently doesn't exist from an as yet unnamed source.

 

[dontpanic]

After Oct 1 aren't the only regulated firearms, handguns. All the currently regulated rifles will be banned. So after Oct 1 you need to lawfully own a handgun to be exempt from the training requirement of the HQL.

Just asking, as everyone seems to think that owning any previously regulated firearm is enough.

Please correct me If I'm reading it wrong Perhaps banned is a form of regulated etc
Thanks

 

[daggo66]

After Oct 1 aren't the only regulated firearms, handguns. All the currently regulated rifles will be banned.

Correct

So after Oct 1 you need to lawfully own a handgun to be exempt from the training requirement of the HQL.

Partially correct.

Just asking, as everyone seems to think that owning any previously regulated firearm is enough.

They think that because that is correct.

Please correct me If I'm reading it wrong Perhaps banned is a form of regulated etc
Thanks

Like many people you are over thinking this. Just read the words as they are written.

 

[dontpanic]

It says you must legally own a regulated firearm, as one exemption to the firearms training.

Law takes effect Oct 1

Only hand guns are regulated after .Oct 1

Long guns, previously regulated are now banned

Ergo you must legally own a handgun as of Oct 1 for this training exemption to the HQL.

I'm asking a question, stating the same thing I have already heard is no helping. Please explain. I want to understand this.

What I wrote above IS what the new law says

 

[Boom Boom]

If you've filled out MD handgun paperwork before and waited, then you are automatically exempted from training. MD law classifies MD-regulated long guns as handguns. I think that's the part you're missing.

 

[dontpanic]

Cool. Thanks very much.

 

[daggo66]

It says you must legally own a regulated firearm, as one exemption to the firearms training.

That fully explains it. Don't try to add logic to something that is completely illogical.

Ergo you must legally own a handgun as of Oct 1 for this training exemption to the HQL.

I'm asking a question, stating the same thing I have already heard is no helping. Please explain. I want to understand this.

What I wrote above IS what the new law says

Did they screw this part up? Possibly, but who cares, it is what it is. It might benefit the very few who own a regulated long gun and no handgun.

 

[dblas]

It says you must legally own a regulated firearm, as one exemption to the firearms training.

Law takes effect Oct 1

Only hand guns are regulated after .Oct 1

Long guns, previously regulated are now banned

Ergo you must legally own a handgun as of Oct 1 for this training exemption to the HQL.

I'm asking a question, stating the same thing I have already heard is no helping. Please explain. I want to understand this.

What I wrote above IS what the new law says

No, what you wrote above above is what you suspect the law says based on your interpretation.

The law takes effect on Oct 1, on this we agree.

If you didn't own a regulated firearm (Rifle or handgun) on Sept 30 (the day before Oct 1) then how are you exempt on Oct 1? Therefore ANY regulated fire owned on Oct 1 qualifies you for an HQL training exemption (not just a handgun).

On Sep 30 regulated long guns are still eligible, hence, if you own a regulated firearm (long gun or handgun) then you are exempt.

 

[Pinecone]

It says you must legally own a regulated firearm, as one exemption to the firearms training.

Law takes effect Oct 1

Only hand guns are regulated after .Oct 1

Long guns, previously regulated are now banned

Ergo you must legally own a handgun as of Oct 1 for this training exemption to the HQL.

I'm asking a question, stating the same thing I have already heard is no helping. Please explain. I want to understand this.

What I wrote above IS what the new law says

No, if you buy a regulated rifle NOW, you have previously purchased a regulated firearm.

The previously purchased has to do with Oct 1 and prior to Oct 1 there are other regulated firearms than a handgun.

 

[somd_brad]

I just heard from ffl that training is required even if you own a handgun previous. .. so im assuming it changed???

 

[jkeys]

I just heard from ffl that training is required even if you own a handgun previous. .. so im assuming it changed???

The FFL is the one who needs training because they told you wrong.

 

[Inigoes]

The FFL is the one who needs training because they told you wrong.

You do not need training post 10/1. Only a HQL for handguns.

 

[-Z/28-]

I just heard from ffl that training is required even if you own a handgun previous. .. so im assuming it changed???

The FFL is wrong. It's written in the law. I forget which amendment, but I'm sure some else can cite it for you.

Besides, we may get it thrown out in court anyway. MSP has admitted for the time being the HQL is a de-facto ban on handgun sales(a direct violation of the Heller decision) as it will be a few months before anyone will actually be able to obtain an HQL, especially if a backlog like the 77r backlog develops.

 

[Medshot]

I just heard from ffl that training is required even if you own a handgun previous. .. so im assuming it changed???

Not according to MSP website.

 

[somd_brad]

Thanks guys. I have no clue they said at the training they went too it said training still needed.

 

[daggo66]

Thanks guys. I have no clue they said at the training they went too it said training still needed.

MSP will be providing the HQL, not your FFL so what the FFL says is irrelevant.