No Shipping of Handguns to MD

[gmharle]

Anyone else run in to this? I found a really good deal on a new old stock p229 form CDNN Sports and when I tried to checkout it would not complete the transaction. I assumed it was because it had 12 rounds mags. I just called them to see if they would ship with 12s because my FFL will accept them or switch out to 10 and I was told that they cannot ship handguns period to MD. Has anyone else heard of this type of restriction?

 

[t84a]

No

 

[eruby]

Longstanding policy with CDNN to not ship handguns to Maryland.

 

[gmharle]

That is a shame as they have some very good prices on things.

 

[erwos]

Sarco does (did?) the same thing. Annoying thing with CDNN is that they're a liquidator, so they sometimes wind up with some very interesting pieces at very low prices.

I have heard rumor that if your FFL orders directly from CDNN, they'll ship to MD in those circumstances. YMMV.

 

[kraftyone]

saw it posted right on there website the other day sucks. I was wondering that Erwos. Someone post if they try it.

 

[DutchV]

CDNN is a low budget outfit. That's their shortcut for dealing with MD laws. At least one of our IP's has a PA shop. Maybe they could order it there, and ship it into MD?

 

[gmharle]

The funny thing is that my FFL is a preferred dealer on their website and located in MD. The point is moot anyway. The item is now out of stock.

 

[Mike OTDP]

I've seen that sort of thing. Just another argument for a national preemptive act.

 

[euchre98]

Maybe the next sale, 40 of us all try to call in an order on one day....

 

[MocoJed]

Bud's is the same way. I missed a crazy good deal a few months back because they wouldn't ship. No amount of explaining would work.

 

[Rack&Roll]

Tell them you will hold the gun you ordered to their head if they don't ship.





I know, it's complicated.

 

[ken792]

CDNN is a low budget outfit. That's their shortcut for dealing with MD laws. At least one of our IP's has a PA shop. Maybe they could order it there, and ship it into MD?

Yeah, you can bounce it off a non-MD FFL. However, they may not sell a handgun to anyone with an MD billing address, even if it's going to a non-MD FFL. You'll either have to pay that FFL to do the ordering, or have a friend in that state order it to that FFL for you, and then the FFL sends it to your FFL (without your friend doing a 4473 or touching it).

 

[python]

I've seen that several times on gunbroker. The sellers are ignorant of Maryland laws and too lazy to educate themselves, so they just write off the state.

 

[brownspotz]

I've seen that several times on gunbroker. The sellers are ignorant of Maryland laws and too lazy to educate themselves, so they just write off the state.

Can you blame them?

 

[erwos]

Can you blame them?

As a matter of fact, yes I can. These guys probably pat themselves on the back every day for "fighting the good fight", but aren't actually doing anything to directly help the people who need helping.

 

[gmharle]

So I was at my FFL picking up another gun that I had purchased yesterday and was talking to him about it and he had a different take on it that never crossed my mind. He said that some of them do it as sort of a protest since MD has things like mag restrictions and won't take guns as they were produced. Kinda like until you change your rules you get nothing!

I understand it but think it just plays into the anti hand by reducing guns coming into the state. Not very helpful.

 

[erwos]

He said that some of them do it as sort of a protest since MD has things like mag restrictions and won't take guns as they were produced. Kinda like until you change your rules you get nothing!

When they refuse to sell to state entities, sure, that makes sense. When they refuse to sell to normal people in the state... it makes no sense.

With friends like that, we hardly need enemies.

 

[vgplayer]

I'm ok-ish with a business that says "We don't understand the law so we have decided to not take the risk."

What I find unacceptable is when they say it is AGAINST THE LAW and there is no evidence to support that claim.

 

[erwos]

I'm ok-ish with a business that says "We don't understand the law so we have decided to not take the risk."

But 99% of the time, they've made no attempt whatsoever to understand the law, and don't care if anyone explains it to them. The only real question these guys need to ask is "could I be legally liable if I ship a banned gun to a MD FFL because the end buyer made a mistake assessing its legality?" The answer appears to be no in all cases.