Montgomery County Bill 21-22

[teratos]

And that's the crap that's causing all this erosion of the 2A. The Democrats know this and the poster that said Bruen isn't the magic bullet everyone is making it out to be is spot on.

Sigh. SCOTUS can’t just swing their dick around knocking shit over.

 

[outrider58]

Bruen might as well never have happened.

Bruen is the ruling. I wouldn't expect any further rulings in that regard til next session. Things take time. Cases need to be made.

 

[Allen65]

And hence my comments that SCOTUS needs to get off their asses and do their job. It's obvious these local politicians are giving them the middle finger on their authority. Yet they sit back and do nothing.

SCOTUS can't do anything until a case is actually brought before them. And that can't happen while lower courts drag their feet on making decisions.

 

[clint west]

Activist judge. basically saying don't worry those privately owned places are not affected but even in the law it bans guns in places of worship , which are privately owned, not goverment owned. It also bans in "goverment owned parks" which is proof of MoCo overreach into state and federal jurisdiction built into their law.

 

[zx10guy]

SCOTUS can't do anything until a case is actually brought before them. And that can't happen while lower courts drag their feet on making decisions.

There have been cases brought direct to them. They chose not to hear them based on procedural for the lower courts to drag their feet. They can choose to hear the case to signal to the politicians and the lower courts that they're serious with the Bruen ruling.

 

[Occam]

There have been cases brought direct to them. They chose not to hear them based on procedural for the lower courts to drag their feet. They can choose to hear the case to signal to the politicians and the lower courts that they're serious with the Bruen ruling.

Cite those cases.

 

[Allen65]

There have been cases brought direct to them. They chose not to hear them based on procedural for the lower courts to drag their feet. They can choose to hear the case to signal to the politicians and the lower courts that they're serious with the Bruen ruling.

SCOTUS almost never gets involved in a case that doesn't have a final decision at Appellate level, unless there is a life and death emergency like someone is about to get executed. What we have here is a District-level decision on a preliminary injunction, not a final decision. Next step is 4CA.

If you're thinking of Antonyuk, that was another PI. And even with no SCOTUS action, 2CA was rattled enough by the fact the Court even looked at it that 2CA significantly advanced their hearing date in order to keep SCOTUS from providing them direction.

 

[Doctor_M]

That WAS Fast for the Judge. 40 pages too.

Chatbot GPT.

 

[Bob A]

Bruen might as well never have happened.

Without Bruen, I wouldn't have MD and PA permits today.

Of course, actually using the MD permit is a challenge.

 

[Biggfoot44]

Check out this section on churches:



Insanity.

Given this restriction, I'm thinking a number of people will become certified and "independent" Maryland Security Guards.

" Independent Security Guard " isn't a thing in Maryland . They could be an In House Guard working exclusively for a particular Company or Org . To work for various clients , they have to be employed by a Security Agency . ( Which have to be owned by a Private Detective .)

 

[swinokur]

Without Bruen, I wouldn't have MD and PA permits today.

Of course, actually using the MD permit is a challenge.

This exactly. The MD permit in my wallet says Bruen accomplished something.

I waited 10 years to get a permit. Without Bruen I’d still be waiting

 

[rbird7282]

And hence my comments that SCOTUS needs to get off their asses and do their job. It's obvious these local politicians are giving them the middle finger on their authority. Yet they sit back and do nothing.

They can’t do anything until a case comes before them


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[dblas]

And hence my comments that SCOTUS needs to get off their asses and do their job. It's obvious these local politicians are giving them the middle finger on their authority. Yet they sit back and do nothing.

In order for them to do "their job" as you put it, there needs to be a case put in front of them. Are you aware of any that have been presented to SCOTUS since Bruen, that the lower courts patently spit in the face of SCOTUS and the Bruen ruling?

 

[rbird7282]

This exactly. The MD permit in my wallet says Bruen accomplished something.

Not everything but something

Yep I have both my MD and PA permits now. Bruen did one hell of a lot for me and many others.


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[dblas]

And that's the crap that's causing all this erosion of the 2A. The Democrats know this and the poster that said Bruen isn't the magic bullet everyone is making it out to be is spot on.



They can choose to hear cases that are presented to them directly that pertain to the violation of Bruen but they have chosen not to.

Name one case that has been presented directly to SCOTUS that violate the Bruen Decision?

If they are serious with their rulings, they would fast track any unconstitutional laws that are obviously violating their ruling. They're not. The Democrats know this and are just happy to tie up our 2A rights in litigation.

SCOTUS only fast tracks what is presented to them, not what is presented to lower courts.

Bruen might as well never have happened.

I would cousel patience, but you apparently have none and have no clue how the process works.

 

[Doctor_M]

Somebody has to be a test case, I guess. Not volunteering, but if it happens, it happens.

 

[dblas]

Sigh. SCOTUS can’t just swing their dick around knocking shit over.

He apparently thinks they can.

 

[dblas]

There have been cases brought direct to them. They chose not to hear them based on procedural for the lower courts to drag their feet. They can choose to hear the case to signal to the politicians and the lower courts that they're serious with the Bruen ruling.

What cases?

 

[Mister F]

This exactly. The MD permit in my wallet says Bruen accomplished something.

I waited 10 years to get a permit. Without Bruen I’d still be waiting

It’s more than I had before.

My lifestyle isn’t conducive to carrying all the time.

Carrying is uncomfortable.

I visit PA a few times a year and now can carry there, and couldn’t before. VA. Bunch of east coast states.

This is our republic working though. Slowly but progress.


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[44 Bulldog]

So what's this mean for the rest of Md?