Raineman
On the 3rd box
The only hope is the SCOTUS. Part of me thinks Jealous speeds up that process.
and ^^ this
The only hope is the SCOTUS. Part of me thinks Jealous speeds up that process.
For many years and election cycles I fell for the fear-mongering put forth by the Republican party. Every election was the election of our lifetimes, and there would be dire consequences if I didn’t vote for their candidate.
And after I helped elect those candidates to office, I watched our national debt skyrocket, watched the erosion of freedoms and essential liberties, saw new beaureacratic agencies created, saw them take us wars not of neccesity, but of choice, saw the tentacles of big, nanny state government further intrude into American’s lives, and watched as they took the very same actions they told me the other, evil party was going to do.
I realized that there isn’t a damn bit of difference between the two corrupt, major parties. Further, that the shell game they play can’t exist without the other party acting as strawman. And we eat that shit like candy.
I have unshackeled myself from this enslavement. I no longer buy into their fear-mongering, and I vote the candidate that best
reflects my values and beliefs, regardless of party. It may be an R, it may be a L, and even occasionally it’s a D.
I don’t vote for candidates that infringe on essential liberties, and certainly not for ones that leverage that liberty for political gain, and then disregard it when a new political expediency is needed.
These type of people stand for nothing other than their own political power. They are traitors to the Constitution they took an oath to support and defend.
I have watched Hogan happily sign gun control bills into law surrounded by the gun-grabbers, stood by as he has not used techniques at his disposal that would ease burdens on 2A, has now stated that he would refuse an NRA endorsement, and has written an opinion piece touting his desire for deeper, and further infringements on the 2A.
I don’t know exactly who I’ll be voting for, but pretty sure I’ve ruled out a couple of candidates so far.
In light of this "Hogan" thread's hat tip to Mike Smigiel:
Consider the source. It might be salient to point out that Hogan ran and won in a statewide gubernatorial election in a state where liberals and Democrats vastly outnumber conservatives and Republicans, compared to thread hero Smigiel who lost in his 2014 Republican district primary, finishing 4th in his own district that is solidly Republican and also pro-2A. What happened, Mike?
Smigiel then ran in a Republican primary for the U.S. House of Representatives against incumbent Andy Harris and was solidly crushed, by a margin of about 76% to 10%. What happened, Mike?
While Smigiel is a 2A folk hero among some here, most Marylanders, including Republicans on the Eastern Shore, apparently aren't impressed and want more, despite his pro-2A stance.
Voting for unimpressive candidates, just because of their well-advertised pro-2A stance, is not a winning strategy. In Maryland, even in Republican territory, it's a loser.
The message sent by voting for an obscure candidate is, in itself, perplexing.But according to some individuals all we have to do is vote for some obscure individual that no one has ever heard of and all will be alright. Because we will be sending a message. The fact is to turn this state round, it will be a long and hard road. It will take a lot of lobbying, discussion, letter writing, etc. We will have to groom individuals to be the candidate we desire. But the immediate concern is not to lose our 2A rights all at once.
In light of this "Hogan" thread's hat tip to Mike Smigiel:
Consider the source. It might be salient to point out that Hogan ran and won in a statewide gubernatorial election in a state where liberals and Democrats vastly outnumber conservatives and Republicans, compared to thread hero Smigiel who lost in his 2014 Republican district primary, finishing 4th in his own district that is solidly Republican and also pro-2A. What happened, Mike?
Smigiel then ran in a Republican primary for the U.S. House of Representatives against incumbent Andy Harris and was solidly crushed, by a margin of about 76% to 10%. What happened, Mike?
While Smigiel is a 2A folk hero among some here, most Marylanders, including Republicans on the Eastern Shore, apparently aren't impressed and want more, despite his pro-2A stance.
Voting for unimpressive candidates, just because of their well-advertised pro-2A stance, is not a winning strategy. In Maryland, even in Republican territory, it's a loser.
The message sent by voting for an obscure candidate is, in itself, perplexing.
2A Voter: Hey, GOP! You need to run a very Red Republican, one who doesn't have a snowball's chance of winning in this State or you will lose my support!
GOP: So basically, we lose with or without you?
...2,000 votes will not swing the election one way or the other, ...
The GOP is expecting every single republican in Maryland to vote Hogan. So if suddenly 2,000 registered republicans write in "NO GUN GRABBERS", they'll get the message. 2,000 votes will not swing the election one way or the other, but it will be enough to get the point across to the MDGOP.
The irony is that a Jealous term or two will lead to more conservative republican candidates.
What are you proposing will change the entire value system of most of the voters in the state? Be specific. This reminds me of that ol' dot-com boom era meme where everyone has a vague plan to woo witless investors:
1) Buy a domain name.
2) Build a glossy looking web site.
3) ???
4) Profit!
But instead, you're applying that same hand-wavy strategy to changing the entire world view of liberal voters with your plan:
1) Work to make sure the socialist wins and governs for two terms.
2) Destroy the state's economy, hugely raise taxes, drive productive people and businesses out of the state, harbor international criminals, wreck the state's gun industry, and crush everything possible that's 2A-related.
3) ???
4) Millions of life-long liberals will suddenly support conservative politics (and joyously embrace the gun rights they spent their lives hating!) and restore everything Jealous spent eight years destroying. All of that damage will be undone! Families' estates will be restored, bankrupted businesses will brought back from the grave. Someone who died because they weren't allowed to defend themselves under the "you can't have a shotgun" Jealous regime will be resurrected to enjoy the rest of their happy life. It will be a new dawn in red Maryland, with the huge majority of die-hard liberals realizing the error of their ways, and instead of simply voting for a less insane Democrat next time, it will elect conservative Republicans from there on out and start going to the range on weekends.
That about cover it?
Except if Hogan is short 1999 votes. Then we lose are rights because Jealous will take them. The time for that demonstration was well before this election, and will be more appropriate after it. Maybe a demonstration (in the PP style or something similar), in front of Maryland Headquarters would be more effective? Maybe a large letter writing campaign by all on here and all the gun clubs in Maryland would better serve us?
If taxes go up the required amount to match the desires of BJ, you bet there will be many more conservative democrats. I live I Southern Maryland. Those democrats are pretty conservative by the big 3 standard (Baltimore, PG, Montgomery)
So if Hogan/GOP does not care how pro 2A voters regard him before the election, why do you think Hogan/GOP will care about them after the election? Hogan cannot run for governor a third term. fred55
Hogan the candidate was a lot more conservative than Hogan the governor, and he still won by 80,000 votes.
Not because 80,000 liberals suddenly became conservatives. It was because 80,000 complacent liberals out of thei vast majority sat it out over a lackluster crown prince who botched the local Obamacare roll-out. The state didn’t get more conservative, it took a nap.
I keep hearing a couple reasons being repeated why conservatives must vote to re-elect Governor Hogan and why Governor Hogan cannot possibly lose the election. I would like to honestly and dispassionately address some of the reasons being repeated out there and invite your thoughts on these issues. We are being told that if conservatives do not vote for Hogan then that non-vote is effectively a vote for Ben Jealous. Under this logic when Hogan refused to vote for Trump and wrote in his father's name, as he has stated he did, How is that not a vote for Hillary? .....I welcome your thoughts on the matter.