MD C&R Registration Discussion

[winderster]

I hope this is not a issue that is too taboo, and do apologize if this has been brought up somewhere else. I had a discussion with some people recently, and some of them are recent C&R holders, myself included. With regard to our Oct 1, gun law, the necessity of registering C&R handguns came up in our discussion.

I have to admit that I have not fully read or understood the new law. Even if I read the whole thing, I doubt I would be able to understand all the legalese. I remember back when this law was being discuss in the state house, a seizure clause was at lease introduced, not sure if it was in the final law.

I believe something along the lines of all newly regulated firearms under the law (SKS, H-Bar AR and such) has to be registered with the state before a certain set date, possibly Oct 1, or subject to seizure. I'm hoping that more legal minded members can clarify.

Please understand this is a legal discussion, of trying to understand the new law, and I'm not trying to have anyone incriminate themselves. I myself have every intention to comply with the law to its full extent. Even if the seizure clause is in effect, I doubt it will stop me buying C&R in the interim. Apparently a registration fee of no more than $15 can be charged at the MSP, not sure if that's per weapon or per person.

Thanks in advance

 

[Boom Boom]

Lots of misinformation and falsehoods there.

The final SB281 exempts C&R handgun purchases from the MD-regulated buying process. There is no registration for them. Magazines are affected by the greater-than-ten round ban, however. You need to make arrangements to pick up affected magazines out of state.

I'm not aware of any MD-regulated long guns on Oct 1st. Long guns are either not regulated or else banned. There's no in between. Banned rifles possessed/owned prior to Oct 1st are exempted, but you cannot sell or transfer them in MD as of Oct 1st.

There is also an exemption for newly-made, banned rifles ordered/purchased prior to Oct 1st but received afterwards due to manufacturing delays.

 

[Alphabrew]

Also, SKS and Colt HBAR are not banned, nor are AR10s. So we're only 99% down the drain in this state

 

[Boom Boom]

Original-style SKS rifles are not banned. Modified SKS rifles with detachable-magazine stocks are banned.

 

[Threeband]

Also Maryland residents do not have to register anything they already own (except machine guns).

Anyone who moves to Maryland after October 1 will have 90 days to register their handguns, but current residents don't have to.

 

[winderster]

wow, lots of good info here. so C&R are exempt other than mag size, excellent. I'll have to have another talk with them. this certainly put my mind at ease as well. I suppose the uncertainty of Oct 1, is driving people a bit nutty. Thank u all, again

 

[winderster]

so, the md "voluntary registration" system before Oct 1, is actually "voluntary" than.

 

[Boom Boom]

A C&R FFL is solid gold in MD on Oct 1st. Yes, voluntary-only for now.

 

[yellowsled]

the only thing you need to really be concerned with is C&R handguns with mags larger than 10 rounds. That would get you in some trouble.

 

[defygravity]

the only thing you need to really be concerned with is C&R handguns with mags larger than 10 rounds. That would get you in some trouble.

What popular c&r handguns would fit this criteria?

I think the CZ 82 is a 12rd mag...

Any ideas on how to ship the mags separate from the gun? Or otherwise obtain the mag it was originally intended to use?

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[Boom Boom]

You'll need an out-of-state mailing address (your own, friend's house, FFL, etc.). You can always drive to or meet the seller out of state if possible.

 

[winderster]

the only thing you need to really be concerned with is C&R handguns with mags larger than 10 rounds. That would get you in some trouble.

doesn't that mean the vendor will ship it without the mag? well if at all.

 

[JHE1956]

What popular c&r handguns would fit this criteria?

Browning Hi Powers made before 1963. Easy to spot because that was the year that FN switched from internal to external extractors. There are usually some nice C&R Hi-powers on Gunbroker -- 1950s West German police guns.

 

[yellowsled]

they can break the magazine down into parts prior to shipping.

 

[defygravity]

Browning Hi Powers made before 1963. Easy to spot because that was the year that FN switched from internal to external extractors. There are usually some nice C&R Hi-powers on Gunbroker -- 1950s West German police guns.

Excellent. Thanks! I'm looking to plan my purchases both before and after 10/1.

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[Boom Boom]

doesn't that mean the vendor will ship it without the mag? well if at all.

Rule for wise MD C&R buyers on Oct 1st: Don't buy from schmucks who refuse to work with you regarding affected magazines. Ask before you buy.

 

[Bob A]

they can break the magazine down into parts prior to shipping.

And to remain perfectly within the letter of the law, I believe you have to reassemble the magazines outside MD.

 

[yellowsled]

correct

 

[rico903]

Also Maryland residents do not have to register anything they already own (except machine guns).

Anyone who moves to Maryland after October 1 will have 90 days to register their handguns, but current residents don't have to.

Do people moving to MD after 10/1 have to register banned items ie: AR"s or can they even bring them? I have a friend in TX who is looking to purchase his 1st AR for 3Gun and I told him to wait and see if he needs to buy an Hbar in order to bring it back.

 

[dblas]

Do people moving to MD after 10/1 have to register banned items ie: AR"s or can they even bring them? I have a friend in TX who is looking to purchase his 1st AR for 3Gun and I told him to wait and see if he needs to buy an Hbar in order to bring it back.

If they move into the state after Oct 1, and have the banned rifles/regulated handguns in their possession before Oct 1, they will have to pay a one time fee to register all of their regulated/banned firearms.