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  • CATMdude

    I like turtles
    Dec 29, 2012
    998
    Frederick
    If you just buy the whole rifle now, you won't have to do the wait, or register it like a lower. If you were just going to buy a lower, and build later, you could just buy a whole rifle now, have it ready for use, and then swap uppers later on when you get to Virginia.

    The correct MDS answer is to buy both...
     

    ken792

    Ultimate Member
    Sep 2, 2011
    4,491
    Fairfax, VA
    Do a 14.5” barrel with mid length gas as a pistol with an SBA4 brace. A 14.5 mid is what all the cool kids are doing these days. By doing it as pistol, it’s MD legal without having to SBR (you can do that too since it exceeds the 29” OAL).

    Then, when you get to VA, you can have an appropriate muzzle device pinned and welded to put a stock on it. You can also leave it as a pistol to be able to drive around the whole state with it loaded since it’s a handgun.

    You could also just do a 11.5” barrel pistol. That’s a very handy size
     

    SkiPatrolDude

    Ultimate Member
    MDS Supporter
    Oct 24, 2017
    3,387
    Timonium-Lutherville
    Do a 14.5” barrel with mid length gas as a pistol with an SBA4 brace. A 14.5 mid is what all the cool kids are doing these days. By doing it as pistol, it’s MD legal without having to SBR (you can do that too since it exceeds the 29” OAL).

    Then, when you get to VA, you can have an appropriate muzzle device pinned and welded to put a stock on it. You can also leave it as a pistol to be able to drive around the whole state with it loaded since it’s a handgun.

    You could also just do a 11.5” barrel pistol. That’s a very handy size

    Criterion makes perhaps one of the best mid-gas 14.5 barrels out there. They offer it in a hybrid profile (beefy M4) and a Core profile (their proprietary taper).

    If I had to choose, I would probably go with the Core series.
     

    ken792

    Ultimate Member
    Sep 2, 2011
    4,491
    Fairfax, VA
    Criterion makes perhaps one of the best mid-gas 14.5 barrels out there. They offer it in a hybrid profile (beefy M4) and a Core profile (their proprietary taper).

    If I had to choose, I would probably go with the Core series.

    I’m a fan of the Ballistic Advantage Hanson profile barrels. It’s tapered, kind of like the Criterion Core, but nitrided
     

    04RWon

    Ultimate Member
    Feb 13, 2010
    5,178
    Orlando, FL
    Do a 14.5” barrel with mid length gas as a pistol with an SBA4 brace. A 14.5 mid is what all the cool kids are doing these days. By doing it as pistol, it’s MD legal without having to SBR (you can do that too since it exceeds the 29” OAL).

    Then, when you get to VA, you can have an appropriate muzzle device pinned and welded to put a stock on it. You can also leave it as a pistol to be able to drive around the whole state with it loaded since it’s a handgun.

    You could also just do a 11.5” barrel pistol. That’s a very handy size

    Guessing everyone forgot supreme leader northam and his reign of terror in va. None of that will probably be legal at that point.
    As far as the 2a is concerned if northam gets his way, md would be a better place.
     

    sixspeedshift

    Member
    Jul 6, 2020
    54
    If you just buy the whole rifle now, you won't have to do the wait, or register it like a lower. If you were just going to buy a lower, and build later, you could just buy a whole rifle now, have it ready for use, and then swap uppers later on when you get to Virginia.
    So buying a lower requires a waiting process even if I don't register it as a pistol? as opposed to just the 20 minute in store background check for the off the shelf fully built rifle?
     

    ken792

    Ultimate Member
    Sep 2, 2011
    4,491
    Fairfax, VA
    this sounds cool but I am trying to avoid getting the HQL --> regarding the 14.5 barrel as pistol

    No HQL needed to buy a lower. You just need to be 21 and willing to wait seven days. No HQL needed to possess a handgun either.

    Lowers get papered out and state registered as an “other.” There’s no subsequent registration process that’s mandatory once you build it into a pistol or HBAR rifle
     

    Neutron

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    MDS Supporter
    Nov 20, 2014
    1,540
    severna park
    I live in Maryland but plan to move to VA in the next few years. I have been waiting until I move to pick up an AR. I don't have much knowledge of the AR platform because of this.

    Looking at Biden's gun plan, I am thinking I should try and get an AR in Maryland right now.

    How much of a drawback comes between Maryland compliant firearms (29 inch length requirement, HBAR, etc) vs what I could get in Virginia assuming I can get something in VA in a few years?

    Basically how much of a drawback is the HBAR specifically, as well as the other requirements? Since I am not familiar at all with this platform I don't know the real world difference between a HBAR or not, etc.

    thanks!

    I'm having trouble with your second paragraph. Are you assuming Biden is going to be #46?
     

    sixspeedshift

    Member
    Jul 6, 2020
    54
    I'm having trouble with your second paragraph. Are you assuming Biden is going to be #46?
    Yes, I currently think the risk of Biden being #46 is a lot higher than previously. If I thought Trump had this in the bag, I would wait for a few years until I lived in VA to get into the AR platform (though their own state laws changing is a different story).
     

    Sirex

    Powered by natural gas
    Oct 30, 2010
    10,449
    Westminster, MD
    So buying a lower requires a waiting process even if I don't register it as a pistol? as opposed to just the 20 minute in store background check for the off the shelf fully built rifle?

    Yeah, I think since it can be built into a pistol, I believe you have to wait 7 days, and I believe it is registered. A Hbar is just the pay cash, fill out the form, pass, walk out with rifle. Pop 2 pins, swap upper later on if you want.
     

    04RWon

    Ultimate Member
    Feb 13, 2010
    5,178
    Orlando, FL
    Stipped lower, baptize it as a pistol. Sacrifice a pig, say 10 hail marys, leave out 7n6 for brandon herrera. In the name of the flannel daddy, gun jesus, and the holy operator, amen. BAM, you have an ar pistol and do what you want.
     

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    atblis

    Ultimate Member
    May 23, 2010
    2,039
    amen as well.

    I have a similar spiel, but yours is better. My friends never understand.
     

    sixspeedshift

    Member
    Jul 6, 2020
    54
    I just vastly overpaid for a Ruger 556, but I figured I would get a complete rifle while I could since its my first and I have never built a firearm before.

    I do want to go back and get a pistol designated lower if I ever get the funds together.

    Any words of encouragement to avoid the feeling of overpaying welcome haha
     

    Art3

    Eqinsu Ocha
    MDS Supporter
    Jan 30, 2015
    13,329
    Harford County
    I just vastly overpaid for a Ruger 556, but I figured I would get a complete rifle while I could since its my first and I have never built a firearm before.

    I do want to go back and get a pistol designated lower if I ever get the funds together.

    Any words of encouragement to avoid the feeling of overpaying welcome haha

    Buying before building is always a wise choice. You want your first AR to work, right out of the box.

    If you bought now, yeah, you probably overpaid compared to the rest of us with a lot more buying history...but what other option do you have? :shrug: Depending on how things go politically, this may have been your only opportunity. You could have waited for a better deal and ended up with nothing...ever :eek:

    So, enjoy your new rifle for what it is, rather than what it cost. :party29:

    And don't forget to vote to keep it (and get others to vote to keep it).
     

    sixspeedshift

    Member
    Jul 6, 2020
    54
    Buying before building is always a wise choice. You want your first AR to work, right out of the box.

    If you bought now, yeah, you probably overpaid compared to the rest of us with a lot more buying history...but what other option do you have? :shrug: Depending on how things go politically, this may have been your only opportunity. You could have waited for a better deal and ended up with nothing...ever :eek:

    So, enjoy your new rifle for what it is, rather than what it cost. :party29:

    And don't forget to vote to keep it (and get others to vote to keep it).
    thank you!

    it's crazy to see a couple hundred dollar difference online for the same rifle, but ofcourse they are all sold out

    will definitely vote the right way
     

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