Making a safe safer

[Huckleberry]

Just buy a Sturdy Safe.

7 Gauge Steel with a 14 Gauge Steel Inside wall to compress their fire liner

If that is not enough, then maybe some standoff, reactive armor off a surplus MRAP or M1A1

 

[Ifdot]

Just a thought....


I wonder if you glued a thick piece of rubber (or something similar) to all exposed sides if it would melt and gum up any sort of cutting tool. (Sawzall, cutoff wheel, etc.)

I don't know. Just throwing it out there.

I remember drilling a TL30 composite safe about a year ago and I hit a layer of something that came out black and gooey. I stopped drilling for a minute without removing the drill bit from the hole (never do that!) and it hardened back up and froze the drill bit in place. Had a heck of a it getting it freed up and pulled back out of the safe.

Man, THAT was a miserable opening!

You could use that spray on rubberized undercoating. I had an old car that someone prayed the inside floor boards with. I had to cut out sections to replace them. What a PITA! It took a few days trying to grind that crap off enough that I could weld on it. It gummed up everything especially when it heated up.

 

[Threeband]

For years I've had ideas about beefing up cheap RSCs by laminating different sawzall-resistant materials around them.

I think an easy addition would be porcelain tile epoxied all over the outside of the RSC. In my experience, that stuff is nasty to drill through, and a sawzall won't scratch it. Then maybe glue expanded metal lath over the tile with polyurethane adhesive, parge it with concrete, then maybe another layer of porcelain, some more parged concrete perhaps with glass rods embedded, then eventually finish it off with some attractive birch plywood, glued on with polyurethane, so it looks like a built in cabinet. Of course, put a matching cabinet door on it.

I always dread sawzalling through old lath-and-plaster walls, by the way. Plaster will take the teeth right off a sawzall blade in no time.

That layer of black drill-bit-eating goo sounds interesting. I wonder what it was?

 

[byf43]

Surround the safe with reinforced concrete.
Bolts - top, bottom, sides. . . . into the concrete.


Video camera in the area approaching the safe. (Cameras are really small now! Anyone trying to get into the safe might not even suspect they're being watched!)

 

[slybarman]

If they don't know they are being watched, what good is the camera to keep them out?

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[Merlin]

One of the very best thing you can do to keep your guns safer is to keep your mouth shut and don't tell every Tom, Dick, or Harry about what you own. We all have nice guns that we like to show to our friends. Often these beautiful safes that some own are displayed in their homes and we love to show them off to our friends as well as many people that just come into our homes for parties or maybe delivery or maintenance personnel like plumbers carpenters or electricians we hire.

Most guns that are stolen in homes are stolen by people we know or have met and talked to in the past. They are not typical taken by a well equipped band of gun safe crackers selecting houses at random.

Our of sight, out of mind and keep your mouth shut as much as you can will make your guns more safe.

 

[psucobra96]

Weld on extra sheets of steel onto the tops and sides and have a lip for them to bolt into the floor. Encase the safe in brick with a two inch or four inch gap from the sides of the safe. Use quickrete mixed with a combination of various pieces of scrap metal like multiple boxes of nails and set in layers between the brick and safe walls. You could also do a six inch gap and add a mix 4x4 pressure treated posts and concrete. The thing won't be able to be moved or rocked and the mix of materials requires tons of tools. Also put it in a cramps space so the use of prying tools is about impossible.

 

[NickZac]

One of the very best thing you can do to keep your guns safer is to keep your mouth shut and don't tell every Tom, Dick, or Harry about what you own. We all have nice guns that we like to show to our friends. Often these beautiful safes that some own are displayed in their homes and we love to show them off to our friends as well as many people that just come into our homes for parties or maybe delivery or maintenance personnel like plumbers carpenters or electricians we hire.

Most guns that are stolen in homes are stolen by people we know or have met and talked to in the past. They are not typical taken by a well equipped band of gun safe crackers selecting houses at random.

Our of sight, out of mind and keep your mouth shut as much as you can will make your guns more safe.

Well, we all know we are here on this forum because we are broke and can't afford to buy guns. Otherwise, we'd be shooting them, right?

 

[Merlin]

Well, we all know we are here on this forum because we are broke and can't afford to buy guns. Otherwise, we'd be shooting them, right?

Truer words were never spoken. I bring home less in my paycheck now then I did 3 years ago. I placed myself on a "don't buy anything you don't need" budget. I have tons of vacation time saved up because when I take off I want to spend money on something I can't afford. So I work. I bought three guns and a ton of ammo a few months back and I think I will be feeling the effects for the rest of the year.

 

[occbrian]

PUT IT INSIDE OF AN EVEN BIGGER 2ND SAFE.


I'M SO SMART.

 

[kohburn]

rather than welding - GLUE an additional layer on using a product called Sika Flex - it stays flexible and gummy for life and required a forklift to pry off...

http://www.jamestowndistributors.co...familyName=Sikaflex+252+Polyurethane+Adhesive

 

[Minuteman]

rather than welding - GLUE an additional layer on using a product called Sika Flex - it stays flexible and gummy for life and required a forklift to pry off...

http://www.jamestowndistributors.co...familyName=Sikaflex+252+Polyurethane+Adhesive

Cool. That glue would Frosh up a tool good.

 

[Engine4]

When anchoring a safe to a concrete floor, do you use a large expanding anchor bolts or do you drill way down & use epoxy/concrete?

 

[G20]

When anchoring a safe to a concrete floor, do you use a large expanding anchor bolts or do you drill way down & use epoxy/concrete?

Anchor bolts here.

 

[Ungermc]

Try this sign

Try this sign...

 

[jrumann59]

Try this sign...

Then leave a petrie dish of white powder out near the edge so when they knock it off it makes them really nervous.

 

[sxs]

Anchor bolts here.

2 anchor bolts to the floor.

 

[niftyvt]

Once I pay off my pre Oct buys I plan on saving my pennies and upgrading my Sturdy to this beast:
http://www.lackasafe.com/products/u...r-4620-trtl30x6-equivalent-high-security-safe
Mid grade/ammo go in the Sturdy and as many of the expensive toys/jewelry/cash that will fit go into the Chatwood. Hopefully there is one still available a couple years from now.

 

[tomandjerry00]

You could weld thick pieces of metal in a grid pattern around your safe. Won't be able to get anything out unless multiple ones are cut through. Even welding a grid of rebar would make it much more of a bear to get through.

 

[WheelHead]

One of these with the eight cell re-loadable system.
http://burglarblaster.com/