keeping MD regulated guns out of state

[Slackdaddy]

I have a neighbor who bought a 2nd vacation home in TN a few years back.
He is a MD resident and (from what I am guessing) has a collection of Handguns and long arms. He mentioned he keeps some of his collection at is out of state 2nd home. (assuming these were purchased after 2013)
How does Maryland view that? say if some "safe storage" law was passed and they wanted to inspect,, or say his kid pissed off the school teacher and "red flagged" him and the crown came by to "temporally" hold onto his guns, and he could not produce what is on his list??

Hypothetical "what if",, just curious on how the crown feels about you keeping "Maryland regulated firearms" out of state?

 

[w2kbr]

Interesting question! I have no correct answer, but I suspect it may be answered in the "Transporting Firearms" sections of the MD firearms laws.
At the very least, I'll bet "you have to notify MSP" etc etc... My Guess:MSP will say "not disapproved", but your "voluntary" registration will remain in the depths of their file room "FOREVER" !!!!

 

[teratos]

I have a neighbor who bought a 2nd vacation home in TN a few years back.
He is a MD resident and (from what I am guessing) has a collection of Handguns and long arms. He mentioned he keeps some of his collection at is out of state 2nd home. (assuming these were purchased after 2013)
How does Maryland view that? say if some "safe storage" law was passed and they wanted to inspect,, or say his kid pissed off the school teacher and "red flagged" him and the crown came by to "temporally" hold onto his guns, and he could not produce what is on his list??

Hypothetical "what if",, just curious on how the crown feels about you keeping "Maryland regulated firearms" out of state?

They can't inspect shit. There is no law that says I need to show them a gun on demand or account for it's location if I know exactly where it is and it is safe. Fvck them.

Don't answer questions.

 

[ken792]

If he bought the evil black rifles and handguns outside of MD, which he can federally as a dual resident as long as he does it while residing there, MD won’t know about them anyway.

https://www.atf.gov/questions-and-a...tate-and-owns-property-another-state-purchase

 

[w2kbr]

teratos......how about that RED FLAG nonsense???

 

[rseymorejr]

teratos......how about that RED FLAG nonsense???

Anybody that comes to my house for the purpose of trampling my Constitutional rights will get no help from me. Any question they may ask will get the same answer: "Lawyer"

 

[Pale Ryder]

Think about all those boating accidents, what’s that all about?
Maryland can’t force him to go to Tennessee and bring back anything.

 

[teratos]

teratos......how about that RED FLAG nonsense???

What about it? If they can't find a gun that is on their list, I won't tell them where it is.

 

[rbird7282]

I have a neighbor who bought a 2nd vacation home in TN a few years back.
He is a MD resident and (from what I am guessing) has a collection of Handguns and long arms. He mentioned he keeps some of his collection at is out of state 2nd home. (assuming these were purchased after 2013)
How does Maryland view that? say if some "safe storage" law was passed and they wanted to inspect,, or say his kid pissed off the school teacher and "red flagged" him and the crown came by to "temporally" hold onto his guns, and he could not produce what is on his list??

Hypothetical "what if",, just curious on how the crown feels about you keeping "Maryland regulated firearms" out of state?

It’s none of Maryland’s f’ing business.


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[Pale Ryder]

What about it? If they can't find a gun that is on their list, I won't tell them where it is.

Exactly! 5th Amendment working to support your 2nd.

 

[Tebonski]

Not sure if it’s relative but more than a decade ago a woman wouldn’t tell a judge where her little children were so he jailed her for contempt. She stayed there until he was convinced she’d never reveal their location. She seemed crazy. I doubt our judiciary would have any such leniency on lawful firearm owners.

 

[cantstop]

So they come and take your registered guns. 2 weeks later you shoot an intruder. You say nothing. , "I built that last week." You haven't been arrested with the ERPO and are not a prohibited person. They take that PMF. Rinse and repeat.

Your lawyer answers questions.

 

[mac1_131]

I have a neighbor who bought a 2nd vacation home in TN a few years back.
He is a MD resident and (from what I am guessing) has a collection of Handguns and long arms. He mentioned he keeps some of his collection at is out of state 2nd home. (assuming these were purchased after 2013)
How does Maryland view that? say if some "safe storage" law was passed and they wanted to inspect,, or say his kid pissed off the school teacher and "red flagged" him and the crown came by to "temporally" hold onto his guns, and he could not produce what is on his list??

Hypothetical "what if",, just curious on how the crown feels about you keeping "Maryland regulated firearms" out of state?

Nothing at all wrong with what he is doing. I would encourage it even. Especially if this "ghost gun" BS passes, just move 'em all out of state.

As for getting swatted, not much can be done about that. If the LE agency received a report they believed was in good faith, they are coming and the reach of a MD EPO does not extend out of state (IANAL). If the the LE agency should have known the report was questionable and they execute it anyway, it would be at their own peril later to get tuned up in court.

The LE agencies are in a difficult position in these matters, and I think most of them are being as careful as they can to vet these reports first before they go kicking down doors. Or maybe I am naive, but this is what I hope.

 

[lazarus]

So they come and take your registered guns. 2 weeks later you shoot an intruder. You say nothing. , "I built that last week." You haven't been arrested with the ERPO and are not a prohibited person. They take that PMF. Rinse and repeat.

Your lawyer answers questions.

An ERPO band you from possession in this state. So whether it was a PMF you made after the fact or one you failed to turn over you’d be committing a crime.

I am pretty sure Maryland can’t regulate your behavior out of state in this case. So if the person went back to TN they could possess whatever they wanted to there according to state and federal law.

You step foot back in to Maryland with one of those guns though and crime.

 

[teratos]

An ERPO band you from possession in this state. So whether it was a PMF you made after the fact or one you failed to turn over you’d be committing a crime.

I am pretty sure Maryland can’t regulate your behavior out of state in this case. So if the person went back to TN they could possess whatever they wanted to there according to state and federal law.

You step foot back in to Maryland with one of those guns though and crime.

An ERPO can suspend a fundamental right? I hope the courts smack this crap out of the park.

 

[cantstop]

IIRC, the reason an ERPO was passed was because it "does not suspend due process".

 

[teratos]

IIRC, the reason an ERPO was passed was because it "does not suspend due process".

I hope you are here all week. I'll try the veal....

 

[babalou]

yup

It’s none of Maryland’s f’ing business.


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A big THUMB up. You see what I did there brother?

 

[HRDWRK]

This question, has the makings for a firearm bill in the last 25 days of the Annapolis legislators!

 

[Doctor_M]

Maryland's laws end at Maryland's boarders. They have no right to compell anyone to bring property back to the state for an accounting or any other purpose.