Keep the pressure on those that voted for cloture

[ItsGarand]

Proof that we are having an effect.

From a good friend and fellow club member this evening:

"FYI, I just ran into (Sen) ****** as I was leaving Cafe Normandie this evening and he said he saw Mike Busch this afternoon and Busch told him he was going to see that changes were made to HB294 that our side would be happy with.

I advised ***** that Busch had better do something right (for us) because more and more of our folks were going DINO. Sen ****** understood what I was saying. Apparently Degrange and one other Senator whose name I forget are suffering some degree of unpopularity because they voted for cloture on SB281 even though they voted against the bill on the floor. "


Keep the pressure up lads! Make sure to call and email those those that voted for Cloture

 

[smores]

Proof that we are having an effect.

From a good fried and fellow club member this evening:

"FYI, I just ran into (Sen) ****** as I was leaving Cafe Normandie this evening and he said he saw Mike Busch this afternoon and Busch told him he was going to see that changes were made to HB294 that our side would be happy with.

I advised ***** that Busch had better do something right (for us) because more and more of our folks were going DINO. Sen ****** understood what I was saying. Apparently Degrange and one other Senator whose name I forget are suffering some degree of unpopularity because they voted for cloture on SB281 even though they voted against the bill on the floor. "


Keep the pressure up lads! Make sure to call and email those those that voted for Cloture

Was the "other senator" Mac Middleton? I spoke to him before the senate vote and he said he disagreed with the bill completely, and would vote against it despite any amendments. Then he went and voted for cloture... he's from D28

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[Echo]

I thought HB294 was not going forward.

 

[Squaregrouper]

I thought HB294 was not going forward.

Patrick stated this today

 

[ItsGarand]

Patrick stated this today

I'm sure by now either bill number is being used one in the same amongst the legislators.

 

[TopShelf]

...Keep the pressure up lads! Make sure to call and email those those that voted for Cloture

Where can people find out who voted for that?

 

[ThatIsAFact]

Where can people find out who voted for that?

http://mgaleg.maryland.gov/webmga/frmMain.aspx?pid=billpage&stab=03&id=sb0281&tab=subject3&ys=2013RS

Oldest actions are at the top of the pile. To see the final votes on the bill in the Senate, scroll to the bottom of the list.

 

[MadCat0911]

Good. DeGrange sucks for voting for cloture. They all need to know we know what they're doing.

 

[JasonB]

I thought HB294 was not going forward.

It is not going forward as HB294 - they are taking up the pre-amended bill 281 from the senate. Same infringements, just a different number.

 

[TopShelf]

http://mgaleg.maryland.gov/webmga/frmMain.aspx?pid=billpage&stab=03&id=sb0281&tab=subject3&ys=2013RS

Oldest actions are at the top of the pile. To see the final votes on the bill in the Senate, scroll to the bottom of the list.

Thanks. I will have to look later...did not find the ones the OP mentioned. So much info on that web site...

 

[MDFF2008]

It is not going forward as HB294 - they are taking up the pre-amended bill 281 from the senate. Same infringements, just a different number.

False. They are taking the version of 281 the senate passed.


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[Patrick]

The senate bill 281 as amended by the senate is the baseline being worked by judiciary. They will release it soon with their own "spin" and it will become the new baseline this week.

Then two votes in the house and at least on I the senate.

People need to push miller, too.

 

[JasonB]

False. They are taking the version of 281 the senate passed.

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Isn't that what I said?

 

[fabsroman]

The senate bill 281 as amended by the senate is the baseline being worked by judiciary. They will release it soon with their own "spin" and it will become the new baseline this week.

Then two votes in the house and at least on I the senate.

People need to push miller, too.

Which Miller? Are you talking about Warren Miller? He assured me last month he would not be voting in favor of any bill that infringes my 2nd Amendment Right. Of course, he and I might disagree on what we consider an infringement. Let me know if this is the Miller you are referring to and I will try to pay him a visit on Tuesday (i.e., next day I have some free time in my schedule). Will most definitely send him an e-mail tomorrow and give him a telephone call on Monday if he is the Miller you are referring to.

This is what I received from him around early February:

Dear Constituent,

Thank you for contacting my office in opposition to any new laws regarding firearm ownership in Maryland.

I wanted to let you know that I oppose any change to your second amendment rights granted in the US Constitution. I have and will continually vote against any such restrictions. The constitution clearly states citizens have the right to keep and bear arms.

I appreciate you taking the time to make your feelings known. I encourage you to continue to contact me when you have concerns about potential legislation and how it will impact you.

Sincerely,


Delegate Warren Miller

Let me know:

1) If I need to contact him again, and if so
2) What areas he needs reinforcement on.

If any of my reps vote for this bill, I am seriously going to have to think about running for office in my district.

 

[6pack]

Isn't that what I said?

No, you said pre-amended bill. They are using the amended bill the Senate passed.

Which Miller? Are you talking about Warren Miller? He assured me last month he would not be voting in favor of any bill that infringes my 2nd Amendment Right. Of course, he and I might disagree on what we consider an infringement. Let me know if this is the Miller you are referring to and I will try to pay him a visit on Tuesday (i.e., next day I have some free time in my schedule). Will most definitely send him an e-mail tomorrow and give him a telephone call on Monday if he is the Miller you are referring to.

Contact him anyway. A month is too long to not hear from you.

 

[TopShelf]

If someone can post exactly who to contact - names, maybe emails, and what to say, that would be great I have not yet been able to figure out what action to take on this thread

List is here that contains names and phone extensions:
http://www.mdshooters.com/showpost.php?p=2205229&postcount=9

 

[fabsroman]

Contact him anyway. A month is too long to not hear from you.

Yeah, but I would like to know if he is the "Miller" that needs some convincing. I would take a different tact with him if he was on the fence about his vote versus if he is planning on voting against SB281.

Dear Delegate Miller,

Thanks for your continued opposition to SB281. As you already know, I oppose the majority of the bill except for the mental health checks, and even then I believe they can be greatly improved versus what is currently in the bill.

v.

Dear Delegate Miller,

It has come to my attention that you are undecided about how to vote on SB281. Let me remind you of my position, which is pretty much against everything in the bill except for the mental health reporting changes, but even those need some cleaning up. I would hate to have to support another Republican in the primaries should you vote for SB281, or worse yet, actually run against you in the primary. However, we moved to this part of Howard County because ....

See, completely different tones depending upon how he is planning on voting. A little information can usually go a long way.

So, is he the "Miller" that still needs to know how we feel about this bill?

 

[Patrick]

Which Miller? Are you talking about Warren Miller? He assured me last month he would not be voting in favor of any bill that infringes my 2nd Amendment Right. Of course, he and I might disagree on what we consider an infringement. Let me know if this is the Miller you are referring to and I will try to pay him a visit on Tuesday (i.e., next day I have some free time in my schedule). Will most definitely send him an e-mail tomorrow and give him a telephone call on Monday if he is the Miller you are referring to.

This is what I received from him around early February:

Dear Constituent,

Thank you for contacting my office in opposition to any new laws regarding firearm ownership in Maryland.

I wanted to let you know that I oppose any change to your second amendment rights granted in the US Constitution. I have and will continually vote against any such restrictions. The constitution clearly states citizens have the right to keep and bear arms.

I appreciate you taking the time to make your feelings known. I encourage you to continue to contact me when you have concerns about potential legislation and how it will impact you.

Sincerely,


Delegate Warren Miller

Let me know:

1) If I need to contact him again, and if so
2) What areas he needs reinforcement on.

If any of my reps vote for this bill, I am seriously going to have to think about running for office in my district.

Senator Mike Miller. Sorry.

 

[Hopalong]

Senator Mike Miller is the President of the Maryland Senate. He has a reputation for getting things done, or not done, as he sees fit. If we make them realize that gun owners will make his life (and other Democratic legislators lives) miserable if this bill passes, he may well try to stop it.

 

[TopShelf]

Senator Mike Miller. Sorry.

Thanks for the clarification; Sent a few emails his way today. Voicemail's next...