Just saw some nice Mosins

[Machodoc]

I just stopped by Big Dog, in Dahlgren, VA, and they've got 3 crates of Mosins in. They aren't on sale just yet, because they need to be entered into their system, priced, etc. I didn't look at all of them, but saw some nice all-matching hex receivers, all-matching Tulas, and overall really good rifles.

I don't know how they will end up being priced, but the guy isn't able to get them for any less than someone with a C&R who can afford to buy them by the crate. He's got shipping on top of that, and he's got to make a profit. I suspect that they are going to be a few bucks higher than someone can order one with a C&R, but here's the big difference: you won't be getting pot luck from someplace that leaves you stuck with something you don't like. You can pick out the one that you want, or decide that you don't want any of them. It's well worth a few bucks to me to be able to do my own hand-select.

 

[Boom Boom]

Thanks for the heads up. The luxury of cherry picking from several crates is well worth paying a premium.

 

[Alphabrew]

Thanks for the heads up. The luxury of cherry picking from several crates is well worth paying a premium.

True dat.

 

[babalou]

whole kits or just rifle and bayonet?

 

[Machodoc]

whole kits or just rifle and bayonet?

I didn't look into the crates to see what accessories were there, but I know that they have the bayonet and some other stuff. I imagine there's a sling, oiler, and maybe the basic tool packet. I'll check with them asap and post what I find out.

 

[Machodoc]

OK ... just got off the phone with a guy who works there. He said that they have the bayonet, oiler, and "the little metal tool parts", so I guess that means the combination tool, cleaning rod guide, and maybe some other stuff. He said there wasn't the green canvas pouch for the tools. I'm assuming (forgot to ask) that there will be a couple of cartridge pouches. I'll probably go by there later today, and will find out for sure.

EDIT - UPDATE

No slings, cartridge cases, or tool pouches, but the oilers and basic tools are there.

What I think far more than compensates for that, though (and this is relatively unusual), is that most of the rifles that you get from online dealers do not have numbers-matching bayonets. One of the things that this shop owner is doing now is going through the bayonets in each case and matching them to the correct rifles, so there should be several all-matching-numbers, including bayonet, in this batch.

I took a couple of photos today. There are quite a few good-looking round-receiver Izzys, but there are also several hex-receivers and Tulas, too.

I love pictures of stacks of Mosins! The ones in the crates are mostly Izzy rounds, and those in the wall racks are Tulas, hexes, and Tula hexes. The owner also has some empty crates (or will have) that he'll sell.

 

[Zibner]

Bought a Mosin Nagant a few weeks ago, cleaned it up, oiled it and ordered some Herter's 7.62 x 54R 148gr FMJ. Haven't fired a rife for year but on seeing it in the store and knowing of the 505 kills in 100 days during WWII using an iron sight i just had to try it. Went to the range to test it today. Mag was sticking so i had to hand feed it. I put my target at 15m, i know it's a sissy range but I was hoping to just hit the target, anywhere on the target for my first shot and not have any issues with the rifle.

 

[Zibner]

To my surprise a hole in one, went to 25m and had the same result. At 50m I was we'll into the black but the shots were all on the same side. I love this ugly beat up Mosin and can't wait to go back to the range. Cartridges cost me 74 cents each for non-corrosive. I would recommend everyone have one.

Now I'm looking for an original scout scope were there any in the boxes?

 

[TLL]

movement

Hmmmm just felt a "little movement" with this thread. Not sure if it was the mosins or the girl with a gun... You think a MO marked rifle is in there somewhere? How much $ premium does a MO bring? I received one by luck of the draw a couple years back.

 

[Machodoc]

Be nice!

Not sure what the premium is on an MO these days, but if you got it by chance, you were fortunate.

 

[yellowsled]

Id be in heaven going through that batch..

 

[Machodoc]

Id be in heaven going through that batch..

Come on down. I'll go there with you!

What would you say the premium would be on an MO now, Sled?

 

[jasonk1229]

What do you think they would run a rifle?

 

[Machodoc]

What do you think they would run a rifle?

I don't know any exact prices. They are going to be priced according to scarcity, with the hexes and matching Tulas being a bit more. As I posted earlier, the guy basically has to pay the same thing as anyone else with a C&R has to pay for a crate, and there's only a couple of bucks savings per rifle if you buy them by the crate. You can't make only $2-3 on a rifle and pay the rent, so he's going to have to make the profit by charging a bit more for the hexes, Tulas, etc. He's also going to make some on selling the crates. Prices are one of the things that he's working out now.

I can only say that, although I could have done a little better in price in the past by ordering "crap shoot" rifles online, I've been very happy with the prices that I've paid there in the past for rifles that I've been able to select on my own. He's still got some primo Sino-Soviet SKSs there, but I can't afford all of them.

Bring cash. He can work with you more if he doesn't have to pay the credit card service charges.

 

[jasonk1229]

Fair enough ive seen them go for 70 to 500 i guess those crates can vary widely

 

[Machodoc]

Fair enough ive seen them go for 70 to 500 i guess those crates can vary widely

I don't work there, and haven't any control over pricing, but know that the guy isn't going to try to screw anyone on any of these. The days of the $70 Mosin are far in the rear-view mirror, and I don't think he's got any that he's thinking are worth anywhere near the $500 mark.

I'm guessing that, if you figured out what it would cost someone with a C&R to:

• Buy the rifle online
• Pay shipping
• pay a hand-select fee

You'd be within a very few bucks of what it's going to cost you to do your own selection out of a large batch of rifles. On top of that, you won't be obligated to take what they shipped you after you paid for something sight unseen. You can walk away without committing a penny. When you order online, you are pretty much stuck with what they decide to send you.

Plus, most of these should be all-matching refurbs with a matching bayonet! I think that's pretty cool.

With the exception of some that were in the top row of one crate, and got some rub marks from shipping when a divider broke, these are just beautiful rifles. I've ordered several Mosins online, and only rarely have I gotten any that arrived looking as nice as these. Most had nicks or rubs. The majority of these are pristine, or close to it.

 

[Zibner]

Tackle box had them for $219 three left.
Comwells had them to $189 got the last one.
The old guy is right, big five prices are gone

 

[Machodoc]

Tackle box had them for $219 three left.
Comwells had them to $189 got the last one.
The old guy is right, big five prices are gone

These should be in that range, or maybe a bit better. Always ask a dealer if they'll do better on the price for a cash sale. They usually price them with a buffer to anticipate the cost of 3% credit card processing, and are often willing to come down that much, since their profit is the same. All they can say is, "Sorry, no."

 

[why2kmax]

damn thats nearly a 3 hr drive for me. But Id love to get a nice Tula. I have 3 great looking Izzys. I should sell 2 and git down there and pick one up..... sigh...

 

[Melnic]

Now I'm looking for an original scout scope were there any in the boxes?

You'll spend as much $$ buying a sniper scope and drilling it out and mounting it, cutting stock etc as you would buying a rearsinal PU sniper.

Enjoy the mosin in it's original configuration I recommend for a while before looking to scope it. you will likely appreciate it for what it is and possibly leave it be.