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  • rbird7282

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    Dec 6, 2012
    18,736
    Columbia
    Just came across this article.


    Looks like New Jersey is trying to pass NY style gun control on steroids. Sensitive places, private property without owners consent, blah, blah, blah.
    Man I hate these azzholes.
     

    Allen65

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    Jun 29, 2013
    7,187
    Anne Arundel County
    Just came across this article.


    Looks like New Jersey is trying to pass NY style gun control on steroids. Sensitive places, private property without owners consent, blah, blah, blah.
    Man I hate these azzholes.
    Well, the lower courts have let NY get away with it so far, with nothing but a suspended TRO. This is exactly what many of us supposed BGOS victims were afraid of post-Bruen, that lower courts would continue to defer to state legislatures because none of them wants to feel responsible for "putting more guns on the streets", enumerated right or not. Nothing will change in NY or NJ until one of these cases gets back to SCOTUS in 5 years, and SCOTUS actually issues a direct order to the lower court to issue a specific ruling. There needs to be a cultural change in some courts 2A jurisprudence that may require generational change on the bench to effect.
     

    ryan_j

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    Aug 6, 2013
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    There are one or two good things in that bill such as removing the judges from the permit process. But otherwise it is utter trash, wholesale infringement.
     

    KingClown

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    Jul 29, 2020
    1,186
    Deep Blue MD
    Scotus just need to rule permitting schemes unconstitutional and which make the whole country constitutional carry.
    Hopefully the NFA dies soon too and all the GCA's none of them can stand with THT
     

    rbird7282

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    Scotus just need to rule permitting schemes unconstitutional and which make the whole country constitutional carry.
    Hopefully the NFA dies soon too and all the GCA's none of them can stand with THT

    Agreed but the lack of permitting doesn’t have anything to do with these jerkwads making everything a sensitive place. I sincerely hope that SCOTUS hears this soon and gives it the grand smack down it deserves.
    So very tired as a lawful gun owner of being treated worse than an actual criminal. It’s shameful.


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    KingClown

    SOmething Witty
    Jul 29, 2020
    1,186
    Deep Blue MD
    Agreed but the lack of permitting doesn’t have anything to do with these jerkwads making everything a sensitive place. I sincerely hope that SCOTUS hears this soon and gives it the grand smack down it deserves.
    So very tired as a lawful gun owner of being treated worse than an actual criminal. It’s shameful.


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    Good Point. They can also name the places to be marked sensitive. Really they need to just remove 2A from any state control at all.
    I havent gotten my permit yet because I wanted to wait for these shenanigans first as I think many others are as well. Which means there will be another surge when the dust settles. MD will not even remotely be able to say there is no interest after that.

    And for now concealed is concealed in my mind
     

    Allen65

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    Jun 29, 2013
    7,187
    Anne Arundel County
    I think these cases will be at SCOTUS in less than 5 years.
    NY amd NJ can easily stretch out the process. Sort of a passive-aggressive, albeit temporary, win.

    It's been three months since Bruen and hearings on merits haven't even started. It could take another year to get a decision at District, then appeals, then en banc if the states lose on appeal, then up for cert, hearings, and decision at SCOTUS.
     
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    TheOriginalMexicanBob

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    Jul 2, 2017
    33,151
    Sun City West, AZ
    Some of these state's legislators...and/or the gun control groups behind them...could be hoping that by the time the challenges get through the courts and ultimately the Supreme Court that the Court's makeup will have changed by then more to their liking.
     

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