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  • OnTarget

    Ultimate Member
    Mar 29, 2009
    3,154
    WV
    To me, the very last line of the article is the most important. Can't rest on our laurels, while the enemy is already at work to defeat us in just a few short months.
    I just gave to the NRA this morning. I'm sure they have depleted much of their assets, during this most recent battle.
     

    TexasBob

    Another day in Paradise
    MDS Supporter
    Oct 25, 2012
    2,487
    Space Coast
    They under estimate the voting numbers, not all Pro 2A voters are members of the NRA. 4 Million is just surface the number of real American 2A backers runs deep. Non 2A voters have nothing to lose, 2A supporters have more to lose and are in it to keep what is ours.

    History has shown people fight harder when they have something to lose. Look at the Spartans, look at the Alamo it the will to fight for what right that prevails.
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    annihilation-time

    MOLON LABE
    Jun 14, 2010
    5,043
    Hazzard County!
    If anything happens, Bloomberg's campaign might help get pro-gun politicians reelected. He's telling gun owners who to vote for as much as he's telling the anti-gunners who to vote against.

    Unseating popular democrat incumbents in red states is just as good as electing a republicans.
     

    dogbone

    Ultimate Member
    Nov 14, 2011
    2,981
    GTT - Gone To Texas
    To me, the very last line of the article is the most important. Can't rest on our laurels, while the enemy is already at work to defeat us in just a few short months.
    I just gave to the NRA this morning. I'm sure they have depleted much of their assets, during this most recent battle.

    Washington Times; said:
    Mr. Bloomberg could easily outspend the National Rifle Association (NRA), without labor-intensive fundraising. The NRA, however, has over four million members and an extensive grassroots operation experienced in political campaigns.

    This is our challenge. Can we here in Maryland rebound from the loss of the SB281 legislative battle with enough energy to make a difference in 2014 elections? Make no mistake about it, we are faced with a well financed and determined foe in this fight. We need to get rolling now with our planning and organizational efforts.
     

    raff696

    Active Member
    Nov 1, 2008
    261
    I read all of these articles online and see the replys below and see they are all pro 2A.. i never see any anti's post a reply.. i wonder why that is!
     

    dogbone

    Ultimate Member
    Nov 14, 2011
    2,981
    GTT - Gone To Texas
    I read all of these articles online and see the replys below and see they are all pro 2A.. i never see any anti's post a reply.. i wonder why that is!

    Because many of the articles posted here come from sources with a more conservative audience. Trust me, there are plenty of articles out there with comments almost exclusively from gun grabbers. We run the risk in our community of underestimating the opposition's strength in both dollars and determination. This can be a dangerous trap. Try attending a few events put on by the antis on their own territory. Knowing your enemy is half the battle.
     

    Mr H

    Banana'd
    This is our challenge. Can we here in Maryland rebound from the loss of the SB281 legislative battle with enough energy to make a difference in 2014 elections? Make no mistake about it, we are faced with a well financed and determined foe in this fight. We need to get rolling now with our planning and organizational efforts.

    Generally speaking, it's already begun (on both sides)

    The 'antis' in the GA are already starting their back-patting tours, and Baron von Frosh is lending support to the PR push wherever he can.

    The DINO movement, the Liberty Tree gatherings, and others are just the beginning.

    But we here are not enough. There are more abuses being perpetuated on Marylanders and other Americans than just gun legislation. Taxes, regulations, burdens to everyday life... All these need challenges, and unless other groups start pushing as hard as MSI and NRA, we're doomed on those other fronts.
     

    squirrels

    Who cooks for you?
    Jan 25, 2008
    4,021
    The tyrants have tipped their hand. Before they could sit idle and wait, putting out ambiguous claims about "supporting the 2nd" and "sportsmen". So many people said, "No, they don't want your guns." This allowed progressives to ride almost a decade of anti-Dubya sentiment to push their agendas.

    They knew that sometime between Obama's second term and the 2014 elections was the time to make their move on the people. Obama could flagrantly defy the will of the people, since he had no further elections to lose, and the Dems had a majority in Congress that they thought they could control.

    Then Newtown happened. That was their PERFECT moment...something so tragic as to bring the whole nation together...and they tried to use the surrounding media frenzy to finally push through what they had been planning all this time.

    They thought that the people no longer had the willpower to fight this in the face of the emotional sh*t-storm that Newtown caused, and to insure it, they paraded the grieving families in front of the country as propaganda. Obama flew them around on Air Force One and had them introduce them at speeches. They paraded them around Congress, thinking that these politicians wouldn't have the balls to stand by their ideals in the face of tragedy, hoping they would all turn tail and run like Gabby Giffords did.

    They knew that once they tipped their hands, once they showed their utter contempt for civilian empowerment and their Constitutional right to arm themselves, the NRA and the millions that support the "gun lobby" would mobilize and make sure that they were voted out of office. They thought, though, that they had the upper-hand. A surprise attack, a majority in Congress, a socialist President, and a major emotional "false flag" event to spin into a call for "our protection".

    And they FAILED.

    Not only did they fail, they fell flat on their faces.

    Why? Because the American people were ready. The "silent majority" was finally awoken and forced to speak out. The Democrats didn't even have unity in their own party...even with some RINOs like McCain they couldn't invoke cloture on this bill. Enough Senators were made to know that their jobs were on the line, and if they made this move and sided with the progressive agenda over the will of the country, they would be held accountable.

    This vote is the scariest thing a lot of these Senators have ever seen...because it is an example to them of how the system can STILL WORK. The ideologues thought that America was too distracted to catch this before it got rammed through, like they were in New York. They thought that their rhetoric and their leverage of a busted two-party system were sufficient to allow them to push whatever they wanted on the people. And the people told them "NO".

    This is probably the first time in a LONG time that the people have stood up and told Congress "NO" in the face of something that the dominant party was confident was a "done deal".

    Bloomberg is indeed p!ssed...and rightly so. He thought that if he spent enough money, he could subvert the legislative process to his own aims. He's quick to point out that the NRA did just that...but what he doesn't point out is that the NRA is made up of PEOPLE...people who are tired of seeing Congress steamroll them with politically-motivated garbage. Bloomberg isn't made up of people...he is one man. And he got smacked down.

    Furthermore, Obama got smacked down. He kept parading those Newtown families around, perpetuating the hurt that they had endured, never giving them time to properly grieve and heal, because they were worth more to him hurting than healed. He did this because he thought he could use them to force his agenda. And the American people stood up and said "NO". Now Obama looks like a tool, all his political posturing for naught. And likewise, he is outraged and throwing "shames" around, but the real shame is on HIM, and on Bloomberg, and all of these progressives who tried to run over the rights of the American people and got smacked down...got told "NO".

    Right now they are trying to save face with this elaborate guilting/shaming act. They STILL, even now, think that the American people are dumb and distracted enough that anything Bloomberg or Obama puts enough spin and emotion behind, they will accept it without question. And they are WRONG.

    Gun ownership has experienced a revival in the last couple years like nothing it's ever seen before, as firearms have moved out of the exclusive hands of hunters and sportsmen and into the hands of the average citizen, as a popular social element. Even Discovery Network has jumped on the bandwagon with shows like Top Shot and American Guns. Gun ownership is the rule, not the exception, and the Second Amendment is once again being looked at not as a relic of the musket-days, but as a true right of American citizens. These tragedies like Newtown or Aurora have scared Americans, yes, but it also awoke a new desire to be empowered and protected. Not all Americans are cowards...many are still "fighters".

    I have a feeling that the "shames" coming from Bloomberg and Obama are going to backfire on them. It is going to further reveal that these politicians feel that they are somehow "superior" to the "common citizen". I am not some child with Bloomberg as a father...he has no right to "shame" ANYONE for not doing what HE thinks is right. Any rhetoric he puts into ads is going to smack of personal "butthurt"...complete with sad music, images of Newtown, and scary rhetoric. People are finally starting to see through that kind of crap, and know that politicians who resort to it are two-faced liars and spin-doctors, trying to play on people's emotions.

    No...the Congresspeople who stood up for what their constituents wanted will get re-elected by their constituents. That's how the system works.
     

    Sev89

    Dreams about cheese
    Nov 4, 2010
    2,100
    Anatomy Park
    The tyrants have tipped their hand. Before they could sit idle and wait, putting out ambiguous claims about "supporting the 2nd" and "sportsmen". So many people said, "No, they don't want your guns." This allowed progressives to ride almost a decade of anti-Dubya sentiment to push their agendas.

    They knew that sometime between Obama's second term and the 2014 elections was the time to make their move on the people. Obama could flagrantly defy the will of the people, since he had no further elections to lose, and the Dems had a majority in Congress that they thought they could control.

    Then Newtown happened. That was their PERFECT moment...something so tragic as to bring the whole nation together...and they tried to use the surrounding media frenzy to finally push through what they had been planning all this time.

    They thought that the people no longer had the willpower to fight this in the face of the emotional sh*t-storm that Newtown caused, and to insure it, they paraded the grieving families in front of the country as propaganda. Obama flew them around on Air Force One and had them introduce them at speeches. They paraded them around Congress, thinking that these politicians wouldn't have the balls to stand by their ideals in the face of tragedy, hoping they would all turn tail and run like Gabby Giffords did.

    They knew that once they tipped their hands, once they showed their utter contempt for civilian empowerment and their Constitutional right to arm themselves, the NRA and the millions that support the "gun lobby" would mobilize and make sure that they were voted out of office. They thought, though, that they had the upper-hand. A surprise attack, a majority in Congress, a socialist President, and a major emotional "false flag" event to spin into a call for "our protection".

    And they FAILED.

    Not only did they fail, they fell flat on their faces.

    Why? Because the American people were ready. The "silent majority" was finally awoken and forced to speak out. The Democrats didn't even have unity in their own party...even with some RINOs like McCain they couldn't invoke cloture on this bill. Enough Senators were made to know that their jobs were on the line, and if they made this move and sided with the progressive agenda over the will of the country, they would be held accountable.

    This vote is the scariest thing a lot of these Senators have ever seen...because it is an example to them of how the system can STILL WORK. The ideologues thought that America was too distracted to catch this before it got rammed through, like they were in New York. They thought that their rhetoric and their leverage of a busted two-party system were sufficient to allow them to push whatever they wanted on the people. And the people told them "NO".

    This is probably the first time in a LONG time that the people have stood up and told Congress "NO" in the face of something that the dominant party was confident was a "done deal".

    Bloomberg is indeed p!ssed...and rightly so. He thought that if he spent enough money, he could subvert the legislative process to his own aims. He's quick to point out that the NRA did just that...but what he doesn't point out is that the NRA is made up of PEOPLE...people who are tired of seeing Congress steamroll them with politically-motivated garbage. Bloomberg isn't made up of people...he is one man. And he got smacked down.

    Furthermore, Obama got smacked down. He kept parading those Newtown families around, perpetuating the hurt that they had endured, never giving them time to properly grieve and heal, because they were worth more to him hurting than healed. He did this because he thought he could use them to force his agenda. And the American people stood up and said "NO". Now Obama looks like a tool, all his political posturing for naught. And likewise, he is outraged and throwing "shames" around, but the real shame is on HIM, and on Bloomberg, and all of these progressives who tried to run over the rights of the American people and got smacked down...got told "NO".

    Right now they are trying to save face with this elaborate guilting/shaming act. They STILL, even now, think that the American people are dumb and distracted enough that anything Bloomberg or Obama puts enough spin and emotion behind, they will accept it without question. And they are WRONG.

    Gun ownership has experienced a revival in the last couple years like nothing it's ever seen before, as firearms have moved out of the exclusive hands of hunters and sportsmen and into the hands of the average citizen, as a popular social element. Even Discovery Network has jumped on the bandwagon with shows like Top Shot and American Guns. Gun ownership is the rule, not the exception, and the Second Amendment is once again being looked at not as a relic of the musket-days, but as a true right of American citizens. These tragedies like Newtown or Aurora have scared Americans, yes, but it also awoke a new desire to be empowered and protected. Not all Americans are cowards...many are still "fighters".

    I have a feeling that the "shames" coming from Bloomberg and Obama are going to backfire on them. It is going to further reveal that these politicians feel that they are somehow "superior" to the "common citizen". I am not some child with Bloomberg as a father...he has no right to "shame" ANYONE for not doing what HE thinks is right. Any rhetoric he puts into ads is going to smack of personal "butthurt"...complete with sad music, images of Newtown, and scary rhetoric. People are finally starting to see through that kind of crap, and know that politicians who resort to it are two-faced liars and spin-doctors, trying to play on people's emotions.

    No...the Congresspeople who stood up for what their constituents wanted will get re-elected by their constituents. That's how the system works.

    Is there a way to like a post on here? Because this one is damn well spot on! Anybody feeling an emotional strain from the last few months need only read this. The grabbers HAD their perfect storm, and they accomplished NOTHING (federal level). We MUST show these bastards who they F#$@ed with next year.
     
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    MadCat0911

    Ultimate Member
    Jan 2, 2013
    1,145
    Hanover
    No...the Congresspeople who stood up for what their constituents wanted will get re-elected by their constituents. That's how the system works.

    And yet, somehow my more liberal friends lose sight of this. Somehow, the system failed them, when the system worked exactly how it needed to if the politicians voted in such a way to keep them getting reelected.
     

    eruby

    Confederate Jew
    MDS Supporter
    Is there a way to like a post on here? Because this one is damn well spot on! Anybody feeling an emotional strain from the last few months need only read this. The grabbers HAD their perfect storm, and they accomplished NOTHING. We MUST show these bastards who they F#$@ed with next year.
    Add this:

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    squirrels

    Who cooks for you?
    Jan 25, 2008
    4,021
    After the soda incident in New York, how can anyone sincerely support Bloomberg?

    I think some people just cannot conceive in their own heads that there are people in the world who would not agree with them, or who would not approve of their agenda. Those people honestly believe that anyone who doesn't share their opinion must be either stupid or insane...when it can be argued that these people are the ones suffering from those conditions.

    Unfortunately, it's these conditions that motivate a lot of people into politics.
     

    b00sh

    Active Member
    Feb 7, 2013
    717
    I think some people just cannot conceive in their own heads that there are people in the world who would not agree with them, or who would not approve of their agenda. Those people honestly believe that anyone who doesn't share their opinion must be either stupid or insane...when it can be argued that these people are the ones suffering from those conditions.

    Unfortunately, it's these conditions that motivate a lot of people into politics.

    I'm not even arguing that probably limiting the amount of soda a person drinks isn't a good idea, but this is America god dammit. This is not the PRC and this is not the DPRK. We have liberties and if we want to be fat, then we shall be fat!
     

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