I Hate Making MIstakes

[Jmurman]

I loaded some range ammo for my .45's

First of all, I'm used 3.7gr Vihta Vuori N310 and the Oregon Trail 200 gr LSWC.

So, like a dumb ass, I didn't do any range tests, nor any chrono tests...I just loaded up 600 rounds.

After 100 rounds I find this load to be weak. Every 4th round or so is a FTE with double jam at the chamber. Its also not very accurate.

So my choices for a fix are?

Yeah I can pull 500 rounds, don't really want to do that. Or maybe I can change springs for this round only. The standard Kimber Pro Carry (Commander size) spring is #22.

Any thoughts?

 

[Alea Jacta Est]

Get a revolver!

 

[DaemonAssassin]

Get a revolver!

 

[j8064]

Get a revolver!

My thought exactly. Ruger Blackhawk convertibles are nice.

 

[amoebicmagician]

I loaded some range ammo for my .45's

First of all, I'm used 3.7gr Vihta Vuori N310 and the Oregon Trail 200 gr LSWC.

So, like a dumb ass, I didn't do any range tests, nor any chrono tests...I just loaded up 600 rounds.

After 100 rounds I find this load to be weak. Every 4th round or so is a FTE with double jam at the chamber. Its also not very accurate.

So my choices for a fix are?

Yeah I can pull 500 rounds, don't really want to do that. Or maybe I can change springs for this round only. The standard Kimber Pro Carry (Commander size) spring is #22.

Any thoughts?

a 18 pound spring will hold a blowback pistol's breech closed long enough for it to safely fire makarov ammunition- for a locked breech pistol that's a seriously tight spring.

22 pounds is the weight of spring I put in my p-64, and it's a pussycat to shoot now.

 

[JailHouseLiar]

You can try a 16 lb spring, but I'd pull 100 at a time. It happens. There was a fellow somewhere who claimed to have loaded 8K, so don't feel too bad.

 

[Jmurman]

8000? Wow, thats alot of work.

 

[BradMacc82]

Just pull 'em apart and let it be a reminder to always follow the process.

It happens to all of us to an extent. The trick is to catch it early before you make too much work for yourself.

 

[august1410]

I had to pull 200 once.....it was a chore.

 

[teratos]

Hate making mistakes?

The I in "mistakes" in the title is capitalized.

Sorry.

 

[dweaver]

Hate making mistakes?

The I in "mistakes" in the title is capitalized.

Sorry.

I assumed that was intentional?
If not, that's just icing on the cake!

 

[Jmurman]

I tried pulling some...I think ill change to a lighter spring and shoot em off

 

[BradMacc82]

I tried pulling some...I think ill change to a lighter spring and shoot em off

That'll work too.

I'll admit, done the same thing myself. Didn't have a puller, so I destroyed the rounds reclaiming the powder.

Keep a few of them by the reloading bench as a subtle reminder.

 

[Bolts Rock]

8000? Wow, thats alot of work.

Depends how you do it. I used to have my setup on a small school type desk near the TV, I'd just set up for one step and do all the cases I had and not go to the next step until they were all done. Was more constructive than just watching TV for sure. Last time I loaded .45acp was around 20 years ago, loaded 5 or 6 .50 caliber cans full of loose rounds, still have a little over a .30cal can full.

 

[freddie]

You could sell them to me at cost/cheap - I have a S&W 625JM revolver that loves to punch holes in targets

 

[pilgrim]

My thought exactly. Ruger Blackhawk convertibles are nice.

What he said.
I load between 5 per variation up to 10 variations. So a max of 50 without firing them. Once I have the load, churn them out. I hate pulling bullets.
I keep some of my reloading errors on the bench to remember.
Just last night someone asked about the excessively belled case by reloader.

 

[SOMDSHOOT]

I'm with Pilgrim. When I am loading something new or looking for less power or more power I only reload maybe 6 or 10 depending if it is a rifle / handgun load or if it is a shogun shell or slug I will reload 10-15. Once I determine what I have, then I will reload bulk. Like my new .223 reloads, I have 16 "test" rounds that I reloaded 2 weeks ago, I have still yet to fire them, but, I'm not going to waste components until I have shot "a few".

 

[Jaybeez]

Could you try seating the bullets a little further to up the pressure?

did you crimp?

you have a 75 percent cycling rate. it sounds like you are on the cusp of an adequate charge for function.

 

[K31]

What kind of puller are you using?

 

[eightshot627]

According to the VV website, 3.7gr is the starting load and should be around 829 fps from their 6 inch test barrel. They list 4.0gr as max. At 829 fps that should cycle just about anything. I have loaded a 200gr LSWC down much lower than that out of a full size with a 16 lb spring. If you’re not running full power ball, changing the spring is a must. I run my USPSA major power factor load (200gr LSWC at 845 fps) with a 13 lbs spring. My vote is to change the spring and make them practice ammo.

Walt