Sweet!
I changed both the main spring, and hammer springs on my P-64
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I sent a copy of my creds. to them, and they gave me a 33% discount. Not too shabby! I used my discount to buy springs for my 586. $13 something, delivered.
beretta_maven
Free Thinking Member
Damn, I wish I had known that....a few weeks ago I ordered springs directly from Wolfe for my PA-63, P64 and PPK/S. Didn't know they offered a discount for C&R holders.
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How was the spring change on the PPK/S? I mean, how much difference does it make?
amoebicmagician
Samopal Goblin
I can tell you right now that a 22lbs wolff spring does not affect reliability one bit- the only thing keeping that action shut on the cartridge is the weight of the slide and the spring, it would probably funtion with a 40 lbs spring, even with the 22 the slide hits the frame backing with authority and I have no failures to feed or eject or otherwise in many many many boxes of ammo, including reloads from both scavenged brass ppu ammo and steel cases that had to be drilled to accept a boxer primer and deprimered through hydraulic pressure, all loaded to conservative .380 specs- and all functioned fine. The main reason the factory spring is so loose is so it's easy to draw back the slide and for disassembly, as I recall the polish police do not keep a round in the chamber and to facilitate the racking that was part of their manual of arms the recoil spring was kept relatively light. This also explains the lack of a decent double action pull since if you were doing it by the book the only time you would need double action is in the event of a light primer strike.
But yeah, after the wolff spring changeout my p64 is my most oft carried pistol- small, convenient, and packs more punch than a .380 especially with defensive loads or 115 grain projectiles. My single action pull was so light after the change that I at first feared I would not get reliable ignition, but after cutting the pistol's teeth on surplus, I can safely say that all primers (that I have so far tried) either work 100% or are duds completely. I did have two failures to fire in a box of silver bear, but I tried them later in my mak- many many times, and they were still a no go.
I haven't measured the single action pull, but it's so light it literally surprises you, and so far I have milked INCREDIBLE accuracy out of it
But yeah, after the wolff spring changeout my p64 is my most oft carried pistol- small, convenient, and packs more punch than a .380 especially with defensive loads or 115 grain projectiles. My single action pull was so light after the change that I at first feared I would not get reliable ignition, but after cutting the pistol's teeth on surplus, I can safely say that all primers (that I have so far tried) either work 100% or are duds completely. I did have two failures to fire in a box of silver bear, but I tried them later in my mak- many many times, and they were still a no go.
I haven't measured the single action pull, but it's so light it literally surprises you, and so far I have milked INCREDIBLE accuracy out of it
amoebicmagician
Samopal Goblin
is it a triangle or rounded hammer?
The linkage is different in the two kinds, and the rounded hammer variants usually have MUCH better trigger pulls, and this carries over to after the spring change.
Locked and Loaded?
The safety is HARD to disengage. I've resisted taking any medal off to loosen it up, since I have no experience with such things. I've sat in front of the TV and worked the safety over and over to loosen it up a bit, with no results.
toolness1
Ultimate Member
I carry mine every once in a while, when I don't feel like carrying my CZ75 compact clone.
I always have a round in the chamber, and the safety on. I don't trust it enough otherwise after some of the things I've read.
You don't want to drop it with one in the chamber. It's old school technology, long before firing pin block safeties came to be.
I asked if cocked & locked, since he'd mentioned the Polish Police DO NOT keep a round in the chamber and then have to rack the slide to use the gun. My complete question should have been, "Do you keep a round in the chamber and the safety on, or will you have to rack the slide if you need the gun?"
54rndball
take to the hills
I have two and have not changed springs because there is a reason for the heavy double action pull. Snap it a few times and it is not that bad.
S&W19
Ultimate Member
My springs are on the way. Thanks to the OP for the post.
You are very welcome sir... And.... You're still my boy, Blue!
Old School the movie, if you don't know where the Blue comment comes from.
beretta_maven
Free Thinking Member
Haven't done it yet...just got the springs a few days ago.
Please keep me posted. I should be able to finally pick up my ppK/s this coming week. (Had to wait for my fricken HQL)
sig63
Member
I did the spring job just like the video on mine too, but first I took it to the range with some regular shooting friends and had a few of them shoot it. They were flabbergasted by the pull. Following the spring change I did it again, and they loved it. Mine is a "triangle" hammer.
Great gun. Very tempted to add it to the carry rotation! It is at least going in as a BU gun candidate.
Great gun. Very tempted to add it to the carry rotation! It is at least going in as a BU gun candidate.
beretta_maven
Free Thinking Member
Please keep me posted. I should be able to finally pick up my ppK/s this coming week. (Had to wait for my fricken HQL)
Roger that...I am going to attempt to do some spring changes tomorrow on both the PPK/S and the P64.
amoebicmagician
Samopal Goblin
why on earth would you carry it with the safety on? It's a double action/single action with a long trigger pull and a pronounced wall at the end of that long long first pull. Granted my spring job smoothed the crap out of it, but it is NOT going to get pulled by accident.
That safety is nothing but a decocker for me. And why would it be anything else? It's a decocker, can't carry cocked and locked with it.
But yeah, I carry it all the time. It's so tiny it fits anywhere, comfortable appendix carry, and it actually works in an ankle holster, this is literally the only pistol other than the LCP I got rid of I could pull this off with, and 9mm mak kicks the crap out of .380 with my 115 grain HPs from Hornady clocking in at around 1020-1110fps
amoebicmagician
Samopal Goblin
also, the linkage in the p64 is advanced for it's time. The hammer will not go past a certain point without the trigger all the way back, that is the first thing I checked before carrying it loaded with one in the chamber. Unless you dropped it hard enough to break the blocking bar, which is pretty thick, you're fine, and even if it did break, I doubt there would be sufficient force to transfer to the firing pin and overcome the stiff firing pin spring I put in that i got from wolff. The thing is a freaking monster.
Point is, I feel fine with it, I trust it completely.
Also, while police were trained to carry it that way, military officers carried five in the magazine and one in the chamber with the safety on.
Point is, I feel fine with it, I trust it completely.
Also, while police were trained to carry it that way, military officers carried five in the magazine and one in the chamber with the safety on.
54rndball
take to the hills
Can't believe all you girly men cannot handle a little 40 lbs. trigger pull. We have to pump you up!
S&W19
Ultimate Member
You are very welcome sir... And.... You're still my boy, Blue!
Old School the movie, if you don't know where the Blue comment comes from.
One of my favorite movies. I don't look anything like that old dude though.
