HQL Fingerprints - Legal Question

[Sundazes]

Do you have a CCW in any state, C&R FFL, NFA item, etc?
As I said before, no matter what the law says, once in, you are in. I do believe the reprinting is just a revenue generator for the State.

 

[Brunswick10]

Federal Law prohibits the retaining of applicant fingerprints. This is why you have to keep getting it done because your prints are not in the system they are not allowed to keep them, Federal Law. If you are arrested then yes the prints stay for 99 years and are not purged, however applicant prints must be purged. Even the FBI purges fingerprints after the retainment period of APPLICANT prints not criminal prints, they stay. So when someone says hey I got printed 5 times for various reasons yes they are correct because their prints are purged under law and no longer exist. The reason for the purge believe it or not you have a reasonable expectation to your privacy therefore applicant prints can not be retained.

Thank you. This is a direct answer to the question. Maybe it says more about the how the law came together during the legislative process, but I would point out that HQL renewals do not require fingerprints. And for that matter, no background check is required for renewals either. If fingerprints are indeed destroyed, I guess the renewal process is really nothing more than a revenue raiser and further inconvenience.

 

[Objee]

- I've kept a daily diary of my comings/goings so if ever... I have details of where I was to prevent a case of mistaken identity.

If you carry a cell phone it already does that, GPS-located and time stamped.

 

[Pinecone]

That doesn't make sense if the above arguments are true. If non-criminal prints are purged, there is nothing to compare. It only makes sense if prints for identification are used as a point-in-time check that you are not a criminal.

Somewhat the same thing.

A criminal says they are you. Gets fake ID to that affect.

Fingerprints are run, it shows up they are not you, but a criminal.

And not all non-criminal prints are purged.

Military and LEO are not.

 

[natsb]

The finger prints are not to prove who you are. They are for proving who you are not. Remember, if you are not a criminal, then your prints should not be in the system. Therefore, when your prints are run, no match should be found. Thus, rather than being qualified, you are found to be not disqualified.

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[ews25]

Federal Law prohibits the retaining of applicant fingerprints. This is why you have to keep getting it done because your prints are not in the system they are not allowed to keep them, Federal Law. If you are arrested then yes the prints stay for 99 years and are not purged, however applicant prints must be purged. Even the FBI purges fingerprints after the retainment period of APPLICANT prints not criminal prints, they stay. So when someone says hey I got printed 5 times for various reasons yes they are correct because their prints are purged under law and no longer exist. The reason for the purge believe it or not you have a reasonable expectation to your privacy therefore applicant prints can not be retained.

I'm curious, which federal law (__ USC __) prohibits FBI or anyone else from keeping your prints on file?

Thanks!

 

[swinokur]

The finger prints are not to prove who you are. They are for proving who you are not. Remember, if you are not a criminal, then your prints should not be in the system. Therefore, when your prints are run, no match should be found. Thus, rather than being qualified, you are found to be not disqualified.

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This seems wrong to me. Lots of people are printed for misdemeanors that don't disqualify them.

 

[jmike1487]

So every time I buy a handgun from now on I will have to be finger printed every time?

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[Sundazes]

So every time I buy a handgun from now on I will have to be finger printed every time?

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No. Just for the HQL.

 

[jmike1487]

No. Just for the HQL.

So go take the HQL once and get finger printed once? after that its just a renewal fee?

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[Objee]

So go take the HQL once and get finger printed once? after that its just a renewal fee?

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Correct, no fingerprints needed for the renewal, only for the initial application.

Of course, that law could be changed in the next 10 years...

 

[jmike1487]

Correct, no fingerprints needed for the renewal, only for the initial application.

Of course, that law could be changed in the next 10 years...

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[JettaRed]

Does any of this make sense to anyone?

 

[swinokur]

Doesn't have to. It's Maryland.

 

[jmike1487]

Does any of this make sense to anyone?

None at all. Welcome to MD


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[mtnwisdom]

So go take the HQL once and get finger printed once? after that its just a renewal fee? Sent from my GT-P3113 using Tapatalk

this year...

 

[Pinecone]

Remember, if you are not a criminal, then your prints should not be in the system.

Not exactly. Some non-criminal fingerprints are kept.