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    My Brother has a boat in the keys and wants to be prepared for pirates. Stuff has happened some of the places he's gone. First purchase was a 12 gauge Mossburg marine. How would you load it in case you had to repeal or discourage boarders?

    Any other recommendations?
     

    Numidian

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    00 buckshot or slugs. Screw the first shot #4 or whatever people like to say... If I'm firing a weapon at someone, I'd rather not give them time to fire back...I'd rather drop them with the first round. And I wouldn't alternate buckshot and slugs either. Do you really think you'll remember several months after loading the gun what's first, what's second...etc etc? Pick one and stick with it. It's a shotgun, not a magic machine that needs all sorts of special trickery.
     

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    00 Buck and some sort of Sabot type slug. The sabots give excellent penetration of solids (like boats) which could help discourage wood be interlopers. 00 Buck for "crowd control".
    I was thinking sabots too. However, in order to get accuracy at distance he would need a rifled barrel which is not good for buckshot for when they get closer.

    I wonder if someone makes a saboted dart. I bet than would stay accurate without rifling and tear right through fiberglass hulls too.
     

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    My Brother has a boat in the keys and wants to be prepared for pirates. Stuff has happened some of the places he's gone. First purchase was a 12 gauge Mossburg marine. How would you load it in case you had to repeal or discourage boarders?

    Any other recommendations?


    :D
     

    3rdRcn

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    + 2 to the slugs and 00. You may also want to consider 000 buck for penetration and destructive power as well. Triple 0 has 8 (usually), .36 diameter pellets traveling at over 1300fps in a 23/4 inch shell. Makes for a very effective penetrator with deadly results.
     
    I was thinking sabots too. However, in order to get accuracy at distance he would need a rifled barrel which is not good for buckshot for when they get closer.

    I wonder if someone makes a saboted dart. I bet than would stay accurate without rifling and tear right through fiberglass hulls too.


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    It's not difficult to get "minute of man" results with sabots out of a slick barrel. I've got some remington copper sabots that are quite accurate. My idea behind the sabots was to punch holes in a boat. So, in my mind if you can't hit a boat at say 100 yards with a shotgun loaded with sabots, then you should probably consider taking up knitting.
     

    Norton

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    Screw the shotgun altogether:
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    I actually thought about those Dragon's Breath shells when I read this post. But, although you might set fire to the bad guy's boat, you could also set fire to your own boat. Might be fun to see what would happen if you hit their fuel tank with some buckshot, then followed it up with a Dragon's Breath though...
     

    novus collectus

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    Novus

    It's not difficult to get "minute of man" results with sabots out of a slick barrel. I've got some remington copper sabots that are quite accurate. My idea behind the sabots was to punch holes in a boat. So, in my mind if you can't hit a boat at say 100 yards with a shotgun loaded with sabots, then you should probably consider taking up knitting.
    But at high seas though everything is moving. :D

    I was thinking something, in the days of sail ships and muzzloading cannon, the round shot would bounce off the water and skip across it (they did this on purpose as a matter of fact). I wonder if the first shot with a pumpkin ball would increase the chance of a hit at a distance because if you shoot too low, it will still skip along and hit the boat at some height.
     

    Norton

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    I personally have encouraged Spot77 to replace the front deck seat on his bass boat with a pedestal mount......so far it's working OK

     

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    Screw the shotgun altogether:
    naval_mount2.jpg

    Well an original gatling gun would be good too because they are meant for being mounted and one wouldn't have to worry about the ATF and all those forms (except for the part about exporting and importing non-NFA firearms I guess).

    ....but seriously, even a mini hand cranked Gatling gun might be the thing that scares the bejeezus out of the pirates. Why not?
     

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    I actually thought about those Dragon's Breath shells when I read this post. But, although you might set fire to the bad guy's boat, you could also set fire to your own boat. Might be fun to see what would happen if you hit their fuel tank with some buckshot, then followed it up with a Dragon's Breath though...
    They make tracer shot shotgun rounds. Not sure how much penetration they would make though or if they would ignite the gas.
     

    Norton

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    Depending how big a boat he has, you could also gain some protection from aerial assault

     

    BeltBuckle

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    I'm with Norton.

    Plus there's always the dependable "grenade down the funnel approach (remember that great scene from "The Guns of Navarone"?). If your hostiles have a boat with funnels. and if you can score some grenades.
     

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