How America would look without guns…

[TheOriginalMexicanBob]

The Federalist did a thought provoking analysis of what America would be like without lawful firearms ownership. The conclusions are not unexpected nor surprising.

How America would look without firearms

 

[MikeFly]

I agree with this. It's not so much about the guns as it is about control.

 

[mpollan1]

No guns you say...

 

[Triggerfinger]

We'll be speaking Chinese.

 

[Triggerfinger]

"It’s not just the gun stats. Mexico USA is a corrupt nation, held hostage by drug cartels and compromised politicians."

 

[6-Pack]

Good luck trying!

 

[welder516]

I draw the line at a point, they are doing things now and we have guns.

Right in plain sight

 

[Jimgoespewpew]

The Federalist did a thought provoking analysis of what America would be like without lawful firearms ownership. The conclusions are not unexpected nor surprising.

How America would look without firearms

 

[Bob A]

The map seems to have lost New Zealand, and the slaughter in Greenland is suspicious. There may be more possible anomalies.

 

[MattFinals718]

Interesting article. The flaw in its premise is that a sizeable percentage of the guns in Mexico do come from the U.S., and start life on the civilian market. Not all - the cartels have definitely used plenty of Eastern Bloc and U.S. military-spec weapons that were exported to Central America during the Cold War and are still in circulation, not to mention weapons sold to or made by the Mexican government that have made their way to cartel members through corruption. But I don't think the argument is sound without addressing that point.

In another topic, I mentioned that I've talked to Mexican expats about gun rights in Mexico, and many of them think that an armed population wouldn't make a significant difference at the individual level. Their mindset is that if someone affiliated with a cartel attacks and/or robs you, and if you defend yourself, you'll be facing the wrath of a LOT of his comrades, and no matter how many guns you have, you're going to lose in that fight. It's not like the U.S., where the person most likely to try and break into your house is some junkie who is unaffiliated with any criminal organization. I dunno that I like that mindset, but I've been told it's the prevailing attitude.

There are, of course, the autodefensas, but they're mostly arming themselves via the same illicit sources that are funneling arms to the cartels that they fight against. And most of the Mexican population is not organized in those groups, or any other comparable militia that exists for the purpose of fighting the cartels.

 

[Alutacon]

The map seems to have lost New Zealand, and the slaughter in Greenland is suspicious. There may be more possible anomalies.

Those whole maps are suspicious.

 

[adit]

The map seems to have lost New Zealand, and the slaughter in Greenland is suspicious. There may be more possible anomalies.

Not sure on the dates of that chart but Greenland's population is small and a few homicides add up quick to the number.

Some older numbers. 2013 (as would 2012) fits within the numbers on Jim's chart above.

• Greenland murder/homicide rate for 2016 was 5.37, a 25.03% decline from 2015.
• Greenland murder/homicide rate for 2015 was 7.16, a 0.1% increase from 2014.
• Greenland murder/homicide rate for 2014 was 7.15, a 42.72% decline from 2013.
• Greenland murder/homicide rate for 2013 was 12.48, a 12.33% decline from 2012.

Greenland Murder/Homicide Rate 1992-2023

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[Afrikeber]

Once the hydrogen plasma bolt gun is invented and printed on 3D printers everywhere the future of this argument will be mute.

AI will assist us so we humans can self destruct.

 

[Allen65]

Once the hydrogen plasma bolt gun is invented and printed on 3D printers everywhere the future of this argument will be mute.

AI will assist us so we humans can self destruct.

We really don't need AI's help. Our organic gullibility, distrust, narcissism and misdirected anger, fueled by social mefia, seem quite capable of taking out humanity without external assistance.