Help Needed With Two Pocket Pistols

[weeman]

Ok first and foremost thanks for any help with these questions.

I have agreed to help my Grandma clean up her pistol. Unfortunately she was relying on this for HD at her place in Va that she is hardly at. When I was there last week she showed it to me and I quickly confiscated for fear she might hurt herself.

It is a Dreyse 6.35 Pocket Pistol. The gun seems to function ok but is just extremely crudy and rusty in a couple of spots. After fighting with the interwebs my google fu finally showed me how to disassemble it.

Once inside I noticed that both the recoil spring and the fire pin spring are pretty bent up. I have not been able to find replacement springs anywhere.

One search did say that this gun was modeled after a Browning 1906.

Next gun is my buddies and he and I figured while I was messing with my Grandma's I mine as well help him.

It is a Beretta .25 auto 6.35 Pocket Pistol. I think it might be a Beretta 418.

On the left side of slide it says:
P. Beretta- Cal 6.35- Brevet.
Gardone V.T. (Italia)

Pretty much also in bad condition but seems to function. The recoil spring and firing pin spring also bent.

I also need to tap the barrel back into it grooves to reassemble the gun. I have tried cleaner(Hoppes Elite, it's all I have), and scrubbing but no luck.

So I guess my questions are:
Where do I get replacement parts?
How should I get rust and general crud off?
If I cannot find the new springs are these safe to fire?

 

[Inigoes]

Try letting the parts soak overnight, or a couple of days.

Let the crud soak up the oil to easier removal.

 

[Naptown34]

Buy her a new gun.

 

[Dan44]

Bottom one is a 418. M took one from 007 because it jammed.

 

[BeltBuckle]

for god's sake, buy Granma a Bersa Thunder or something and put that thing in a museum! Your instincts are excellent!

 

[weeman]

Already thinking of getting here a new one.

I would still like to fix this one though. What am I soaking the gun in Inigoes?

 

[lx1x]

Try letting the parts soak overnight, or a couple of days.

Let the crud soak up the oil to easier removal.

 

[weeman]

DUHHHHHHHHH!
Thanks for pointing out my stooooopidddnesss.

 

[terryhimself]

The springs appear to be fine. I have worked on and used worse. As stated let the parts soak and use a stiff brush to remove crud.

 

[zoostation]

For parts you may want to try sarcoinc.com in NJ. Also posting a WTB ad over on gunboards.com where so many of us crufflers hang might be helpful.

I also agree with the idea of getting your grandma a new gun! Those are nice collectibles but age has caught up to them.

 

[houserocker]

Nice Dreyse! If you buy here a Bersa, I'd take it off your hands.

 

[weeman]

Nice Dreyse! If you buy here a Bersa, I'd take it off your hands.

I'm sure she wouldn't let it go as it was my late Grandfather's.

Back to the original post:

What about parts for the beretta?
What kind of oil should I soak them in?

 

[Biggfoot44]

Use whatever gunish oil that is at hand. Soak, judicous application of 0000 steel wool.
The springs don't look that bad, if they work, don't worry.
Check with Gun Parts Corp ( formerly Numrich Arms) . For parts.
You love your grandma, buy her a modern .380, or preferably .32acp , of pocket pistol size as opposed to micro.

 

[hvymax]

I've seen much worse that worked fine. That said +1 on numrich&sarco. Personally I would call wolf springs and see if they can help. Their springs are almost beyond compare. A good cleaning and some quality new springs and these old soldiers will be ready for duty for a long time to come. Just lay off the +P's. PS you will want mag springs as well. PPS save the old stuff for collector value

 

[h2u]

Already thinking of getting here a new one.

I would still like to fix this one though. What am I soaking the gun in Inigoes?

I think soaking in Kroil for a couple of days would work wonders for them.

 

[BeltBuckle]

lot of good advice here. don't overlook wipe-out http://www.eabco.com/WipeOut.htm -- I'd treat before and after a good oil soak/steel wool/brass brush scrub. coat with eezox afterwards http://www.eezox.com/gun-care.html .

those are neat lookin pieces, well worth hanging \on to, but I'd upgrade granma's aresenal for modern service

 

[weeman]

I think soaking in Kroil for a couple of days would work wonders for them.

Is that something I can pick up locally or do I need to order it?

 

[bean93x]

blue wonder gun cleaner and 0000 steel wool will do wonders on those peices.

 

[Threeband]

Does your Grandma have any sort of training or shooting experience? Maybe you should get her a .38 Special DA revolver.


Take her to the range, or set her up with a Handgun Introduction for Women course.

 

[weeman]

Does your Grandma have any sort of training or shooting experience? Maybe you should get her a .38 Special DA revolver.


Take her to the range, or set her up with a Handgun Introduction for Women course.

My Grandma was a marine. I definetly feel sorry for anyone that would ever mess with her. One of the toughest people I have ever met.