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  • Schipperke

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    Feb 19, 2013
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    Not light reading, but go for it. I get the gist that guns are not the problem.
    What a bunch of uneducated rednecks have been saying for years..
    Funny how the elites will bury this, and surprised this even was published.

    http://is.gd/7qhxs7
     

    abean4187

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    Apr 16, 2013
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    I remember using that paper against anti freedom activists back in 2008 during the Ron Paul presidential run.

    It’s nice but it is not a slam dunk. It basically shows that worldwide, there is no correlation between gun ownership and violent crimes. Some nations with incredibly strict gun control have very little crime while others with strict gun control have high crime.

    It more gets to the point in that guns are not the problem. Any gun control discussion that does not eventually turn to ending the war on drugs and improving inner city schools is basically a joke in the US as fixing those two problems would reduce homicides significantly more than removing all the guns in America.
     

    esqappellate

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    Feb 12, 2012
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    Not light reading, but go for it. I get the gist that guns are not the problem.
    What a bunch of uneducated rednecks have been saying for years..
    Funny how the elites will bury this, and surprised this even was published.

    http://is.gd/7qhxs7

    This gem from footnote 30:

    Several critics have now replicated Lott’s work using additional or different data, additional control variables, or new or different statistical techniques they deem superior to those Lott used. Interestingly, the replications all confirm Lott’s general conclusions; some even find that Lott underestimated the crime‐reductive effects of allowing good citizens to carry concealed guns.
     

    abean4187

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    Apr 16, 2013
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    Taking nothing from the fine paper, be advised this paper was done in the 2007 timeframe. See:
    http://www.garymauser.net/pdf/KatesMauserHJPP.pdf

    The ACRU talks about the paper the days before Heller was petitioned for cert.
    http://theacru.org/acru/harvard_study_gun_control_is_counterproductive/

    I would be careful with your first link. The statistics for Luxembourg are wrong. They claim the murder rate is 9 in 2002 when it is actually around 1. The latest report puts the 2008 numbers only at 2.5.

    Gun grabbers are going to focus on that incorrect bit of information despite that everything else is correct and proves a good point.
     

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