H&K MR762A1

[CrimsonJer]

So, according to you guys, this rifle http://www.hk-usa.com/civilian_products/mr762_general.asp will still be cash and carry after October 1st, 2013. Now since I really want to buy this rifle, this is great news to me, but I'm trying to understand the "why" of it still being cash and carry. I just want help understanding how that works so I know what I can and cannot get in the future. Is there a specific feature of it that exempts it or what? Thanks in advance guys.

-Jeremy

 

[dblas]

It's not on the regulated firearms list and it is not a copy of anything on the regulated firearms list. It is cash and carry today, it will be cash and carry tomorrow, and it will be cash and carry after October 1 (but with a 10 round magazine). It only has one "evil feature" in addition to a removable magazine, so it will not be classified as a copycat.

 

[CrimsonJer]

It's not on the regulated firearms list and it is not a copy of anything on the regulated firearms list. It is cash and carry today, it will be cash and carry tomorrow, and it will be cash and carry after October 1 (but with a 10 round magazine). It only has one "evil feature" in addition to a removable magazine, so it will not be classified as a copycat.

Which part is the evil feature? It has a collapsible stock, pistol grip, and what I think is a flash suppressor? Or is that not really a flash suppressor?

 

[dblas]

Which part is the evil feature? It has a collapsible stock, pistol grip, and what I think is a flash suppressor? Or is that not really a flash suppressor?

The flash suppressor.

 

[CrimsonJer]

The flash suppressor.

No kidding? The other two don't count at all? This new law really is ridiculous... Not that I am complaining.

 

[-Z/28-]

No kidding? The other two don't count at all? This new law really is ridiculous... Not that I am complaining.

There are 3 evil features: Flash Hider, Folding Stock, and Grenade Launcher.

 

[CrimsonJer]

There are 3 evil features: Flash Hider, Folding Stock, and Grenade Launcher.

Oh! Those are the offending 3 that get a weapon banned? I thought it was more than that. Silly laws are silly.

 

[Makarov Kid]

There are 3 evil features: Flash Hider, Folding Stock, and Grenade Launcher.

Well, I don't know how the grenade launcher comes into play as those aren't allowed for civilians, but I can always swap out the flash hider for a muzzle brake. This does nothing to firearms really.

 

[CrimsonJer]

Well, I don't know how the grenade launcher comes into play as those aren't allowed for civilians, but I can always swap out the flash hider for a muzzle brake. This does nothing to firearms really.

I think they are legal in some of the southern states, but it has to go through an extensive NFA check or something. I'm not at all sure.

 

[-Z/28-]

Well, I don't know how the grenade launcher comes into play as those aren't allowed for civilians, but I can always swap out the flash hider for a muzzle brake. This does nothing to firearms really.

40mm launchers are legal, but go through the NFA process.

37mm launchers are legal and cash/carry as long as you only use flares and a handful of other non-weapon projectiles.

 

[straightsilver3]

I don't see how a grenade launcher comes into play anyway Look at the Yugo SKS This has one but without a live grenade and proper firing blanks it useless. You can buy real Grenades thru NFA for the cost of the Grenade plus 200 for the tax stamp. Yeah GangBangers are lining up for these

 

[CrimsonJer]

I don't see how a grenade launcher comes into play anyway Look at the Yugo SKS This has one but without a live grenade and proper firing blanks it useless. You can buy real Grenades thru NFA for the cost of the Grenade plus 200 for the tax stamp. Yeah GangBangers are lining up for these

Haha, the way they ban this stuff it's like you'd think Baltimore was comparable to Fallujah or something.

 

[JustCuz]

I don't see how a grenade launcher comes into play anyway Look at the Yugo SKS This has one but without a live grenade and proper firing blanks it useless. You can buy real Grenades thru NFA for the cost of the Grenade plus 200 for the tax stamp. Yeah GangBangers are lining up for these

I was wondering if the Yugo SKS grenade SPIGOT would be considered a "launcher" under the law. IMO, there is a fundamental difference between a spigot and a launcher, making them to separate devices. Saying both devices are launchers would be like saying that ammo cans are high-cap magazines because they are designed to hold ammunition.

 

[Mobile]

If that's legal then wouldn't any piston AR have to be legal as well?

 

[jawn]

If that's legal then wouldn't any piston AR have to be legal as well?

The MR762 is an AR10. An AR10 is not an AR15.

 

[tangent]

So if you put a medium or heavy barrel on anything, can you call it a copycat of a HBAR AR-15? (which is legal)

 

[tangent]

There are 3 evil features: Flash Hider, Folding Stock, and Grenade Launcher.

Following the OP link, there is no grenade launcher. But you are saying it will be illegal as a copycat after Oct 1?

-t

 

[Markp]

If that's legal then wouldn't any piston AR have to be legal as well?

Yes, the HK MR556 would be legal under the new law. It is NOT an AR-15. The AR uses a DI gas system and the MR556 uses a short stroke piston action.

Mark

 

[dblas]

Following the OP link, there is no grenade launcher. But you are saying it will be illegal as a copycat after Oct 1?

-t

I think you mis-understood. In order to be a copy cat, a firearm must have a detachable magazine and TWO of the following features to be banned:

Flash Suppressor
Grenade Launcher/Flare Launcher
Folding Stock

 

[dblas]

Yes, the HK MR556 would be legal under the new law. It is NOT an AR-15. The AR uses a DI gas system and the MR556 uses a short stroke piston action.

Mark

Then by that logic, any AR lower with a piston upper would be GTG. Like a friends Bushmaster lower and POF piston upper.