Threeband
The M1 Does My Talking
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The largest Mass Murder by single individual in the US was commited with a gallon of unleaded gasoline and a match
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I thought it was leaded gasoline.
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The largest Mass Murder by single individual in the US was commited with a gallon of unleaded gasoline and a match
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Is this another gun grabbing thread that's meant to look like a we need to do "Something" thread?
Not a novel concept (recently enacted in CA) but maybe worthy of discussion more broadly. Devil’s in the details but this could be a means to prevent some of these premeditated attacks. Interested in thoughts from the group.
https://www.nationalreview.com/2018/02/gun-control-republicans-consider-grvo/
I didn’t mean to imply it’s a panacea. It seems to me that it could make a difference in some situations and if due process is made paramount in how it’s implemented then it’s worth considering.
I say that because we can’t allow the antis to consume all of the oxygen in the room and need to have something constructive to offer
There no blowback. If you lie though your teeth to get a restraining order, the evidence to get it into consideration barely needs to be preponderance decided y a low level administrator, but the evidence to convict you of any perjury for those lies has to be full criminal probable burdens (beyond a reasonable doubt). It is WHY people lie in civil cases in this area of adjudication all the time. There is no downsideAs I said earlier, the devil's in the detail of any legislation. This "blowback" mechanism would be an essential component in my opinion.
It is WHY people lie in civil cases in this area of adjudication all the time. There is no downside
If i say in civil court, under oath that you face to face threatened to kill me, it is admissible, no one has to believe my testimony to a 99%, 95%, 90 or 52% likely truthfullness. just 50% and for restraining orders maybe less.
Most of them surrender when an armed LEO shows up. The animal in Florida wants to plead guilty IF DEATH is taken off the table.
What we need is to drop them ASAP. Shoot first, ask questions later. When they know they will die on the spot, maybe something will change?
2.) Criminal penalities for intentional misuse. If a phone bank of mom's against guns decides to start calling and filing en mass, they need to be charged.
I am in complete agreement with your points about emotional exploitation (see already organized march in DC) and incrementalism but you left out an important element. The media, which is fully aligned with the goals of Bloomberg et al, will do everything in its power to publicize and facilitate these efforts. This is not a level playing field. And our insistence on the sanctity of the 2A, civil rights, etc as a reason that to oppose new gun laws are not persuasive with enough people who consider themselves "moderates".
I'm just gonna cherry pick this part right here...
"In other words, proper application of existing policies and procedures could have saved lives, but the people in the federal government failed. And they keep failing."
Okay, so what about the people who DID get checked out and a possible mass shooting WAS prevented? You can't have empirical data for that because you can't account for something that may have happened but didn't. I'm sure the fbi did drop the ball on this guy and others but come on, minority report is not and never will be real. You can't predict and arrest for a crime that hasn't happened yet.
I was accused by a co-worker of making threats. I was served with a restraining order that was dismissed at the hearing a week later. I was forced to resign after over 28 years of service or they would have dismissed (Fired) me. The complaint was based on hearsay but it did not make a difference. Not surprising because it occurred in Prince Georges County at the office of the sheriff. What is interesting is that I was banned from my work station so could not access my files and e-mails. Mark