Gun grabbing in Boston met with resistance

[pbharvey]

Patton was involved also though the article does not say anything about it.

Wiki article includes the Patton reference

 

[frogman68]

just remember what started Boston 1775 a tax increase on tea. This issue is much bigger IMHO

 

[sheat36]

Funny our founding fathers were also labeled "right wing extremists".

Right on!!! I wear that label proudly.

 

[gedelea]

The only way any of the above would come into play was if they were coming for our smart phones. In that case, there would be a second civil war. Guns, not so much.

Why come after your phone? There are loopholes in the system to already remotely disable photo and video capabilities in the phone, or better yet...shut the "offending" cell grid off completely rendering your smart phone dumb in seconds. The cover for this action could be a reported bomb threat and they proactively shutting the grid down so they can't be remote detonated.


Ooops...my tin foil hat just fell off my head....

 

[Vile Shadow]

The problem I have here, is that when someone makes a statement here that I find detestable, I remember that for what it's still worth we do have a Constitution, which contains a right to free speech. I don't have to like what they said, but that's the way it is for the moment at least.

On the other hand, I happen to be of the opinion that gun owners and the "civil society", at least as defined by Martin O'malley, are simply not compatible. And anyone who suggests, or even hints at that notion is promptly ostracized and dismissed as a "tinfoil hat conspiracy nut"

One need only look at the demographics of this state to see this. The eastern shore and the western 4 counties are totally different worlds than the rest of the state. I dare ask what makes anyone think that the people of Baltimore city, Prince George's and Montgomery counties don't view those that live in the "hick" parts of the state as a threat to their liberal utopia?

Well I say let them have it, so the rest of us can live in peace.

When people of a state, or a nation for that matter, begin to see each other as a threat to their respective ways of life, that's what spawns scenarios like the OP describes. It's unfortunate that is has to be that way, but to deny it is just naive.

 

[jrumann59]

On the other hand, I happen to be of the opinion that gun owners and the "civil society", at least as defined by Martin O'malley, are simply not compatible. And anyone who suggests, or even hints at that notion is promptly ostracized and dismissed as a "tinfoil hat conspiracy nut"

I agree with everything you have said even the above but it also cuts the other way if you do agree with the a group because their opinion however "tinfoily" the term being thrown around now, "being with the JBT".

I have seen a trend that recent new members have been drive by posting starting threads with info that is little more than speculation bashing people with grand generalizations using sources that many here would not use to validate that the sky is blue but all of a sudden has become reliable now when a few months back it was a "insert derogative adjective" news site.

 

[bigalf]

"from my cold dead hands"

 

[Tungsten]

While looking at the SB281 threads, along with the national anti-2A threads, I have come to the painful conclusion that most people on here won't even truly fight against spineless politicians, much less an armed unit coming to physically take your weapons. I find that frustrating, especially considering the occupational demographics of members here.
It seems like the people willing to use the anti's tactics against them, and to do what is necessary to defeat them, are in the minority here. Maybe that is a good thing. However it does make me wonder just what extreme circumstances it will take to get many of you off your asses and actually make a difference in the real world as opposed to playing "who has the biggest balls" on an internet forum.

 

[iobidder]

No, I don't know. But since you've broached the subject why don't you tell us?


Maybe I'm just being overly sensitive, but I don't like the way they are portrayed in this story, even in a hypothetical sense. Like I said, I find it offensive. Perhaps others don't.

Rarity...however I am with you on this one.

 

[Sundancer]

Taking it as a clever twist on historical juxtapositioning, the story was entertaining and a good post. As for the other deeper matters, I leave that the experts in the board.

 

[Mark75H]

I do not think the NG was involved gun and powder confiscation in April 1775. Pretty sure it was non-American native, British-born "Regulars" under the command of British Crown appointed "Governor-General" ... if you want to apply NG to anyone in April 1775, it would be those who answered the muster and stood up to the red uniformed Regulars in Lexington.

 

[04RWon]

I had to copy that,

 

[Right2Carry]

BOSTON - National guard units seeking to confiscate a cache of recently banned assault weapons were ambushed on April 19th by elements of a para-military extremist faction. Military and law enforcement sources estimate that 72 were killed and more than 200 injured before government forces were compelled to withdraw.

Speaking after the clash Massachusetts Governor Thomas Gage declared that the extremist faction, which was made up of local citizens, has links to the radical right-wing tax protest movement. Gage blamed the extremists for recent incidents of vandalism directed against internal revenue offices. The governor, who described the group's organizers as "criminals," issued an executive order authorizing the summary arrest of any individual who has interfered with the government's efforts to secure law and order. The military raid on the extremist arsenal followed wide-spread refusal by the local citizenry to turn over recently outlawed assault weapons.

April 20, 1775

http://i194.photobucket.com/albums/z...160F33517A.jpg

History seems to always repeat itself in some form or fashion. I wonder if O'Malley is related to Governor Thomas Gage.

I hope we have learned something from Histroy, it's better to eliminate the devil, to save the lives of many.

 

[SonicBlue]

I'm sorry but I don't think it's appropriate to vilify the National Guard in this piece and compare them to redcoats of the Revolutionary War.

I find that highly offensive myself.

Maybe the DHS would be a better choice. ?

 

[K.C.Dean]

I think that about 90% of the college professors agree that all of our forefathers were terrorist.

 

[JAY1234]

As soon as I read the title......I knew what you were writing.

We dont have the balls to do that today.

You may speak for yourself, however, I believe you are unqualified to make a blanket statement such as "we" don't have the balls to do that today. Number one, men aren't the only ones who believe in the United States Constitution and believe it or not, there are women who are just as capable with firearms as us menfolk.

 

[jpk1md]

I have the utmost respect for our service people.....

But given your response are you implying that if POTUS was to force an executive order or if MOM or whomever pushed for confiscation that the Nat. Guard would not be the tip of the spear? I think we all know the answer to this.

Well, based upon what we saw in Watertown Mass last week with the unconstitutional door to door searches I'd say that the chances of law enforcement/.mil refusing unconstitutional orders are a lot slimmer than most of us would like to believe.

Boston Strong?

********......more like Boston Sheep

 

[jpk1md]

What you are implying would not happen. Many in the military and police forces are pro 2A and would desert or turn on their own govt if such an order was given. Are you prior military? Clever piece of work but using the National Guard just doesn't fit.

Want to rethink your statement?





So much for refusing unconstitutional orders eh?

 

[Robert]

I think if the Federal Government were to do an outright ban and not do it as a 1000 cuts there would be open revolute. The issue is up until now it has been slow and limited. The boiling pot issue. If we went from 1950 to now in a day there would be open warfare but it was done slowly over decades and most people accept it. Although I think we have hit the point were they can no longer hide there goals and people are getting fed up.

SNIP

Thanks
Robert

Spot on

 

[Robert]

Want to rethink your statement?





So much for refusing unconstitutional orders eh?

Yep, and NOTHING can be done to stop it.. The train has long since left the station..