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  • PipeHitter1316

    , , Engage Instructor
    Industry Partner
    Oct 2, 2011
    162
    I'm getting into the rifle reloading wanted some suggestions on loading .308 for a remington 700 vtr and .223 in a delton AR15?
     

    JamesBailey

    Form Factor'ed!
    Jan 28, 2010
    873
    Arlington VA
    70gr Berger VLD over 25.2 grs RL15 in Win brass. 2950+ out of my 20" 8twist AR. Work up to it and this is a 5.56mm NATO pressure, so don't use if you are in a 223 Rem chamber.
     

    JamesBailey

    Form Factor'ed!
    Jan 28, 2010
    873
    Arlington VA
    If you are loading mag length ammo, all of the popular 5.56mm bullet choices (e.g. 77gr SMK, 75gr Hornady, 69gr SMK, etc) will stabilize fine with a 7, 8 or 9 twist barrel. Bullets longer than 77gr SMK will require 7 twist or faster. 7 twist generally overstabilizes most 5.56mm bullets. No point in over-spinning, unless you are shooting at really low MVs or with strange environmentals, and there are lots of downsides, including more spin drift and lower MVs for a given powder charge.
     

    guthook

    Grrr.
    Apr 7, 2008
    7,056
    St. Mary's
    As a general rule, other peoples recipes will likely not translate well to your rifles. There will be slight variations that make yours unique.

    Best advice is to develop your own load with proven components. That is where we can help the most, by keeping you away from crappy bullets, brass and powders that haven't given great results for the application.

    Might want to post your rifles' specs for the group to help you better.:thumbsup:
     

    JavaDan

    Beer - Nectar of the Gods
    Feb 25, 2010
    467
    Pasadena
    +1 - guthook

    For .223, I've found this to work best in my Spikes 16" middy 7 twist:

    Sierra 69gr MK
    Varget 25.3gr
    CCI primer
    Slight taper crimp with a Lee factory crimp die.
     

    verizonguy

    Active Member
    Sep 30, 2010
    280
    Bel Air, MD
    I have a Remington 700 VTR .308 as well and here is my load. You should see similar results with yours if you use this load:

    168gr Hornady BTHP
    41grs Hodgdon Benchmark powder. 41grs with commercial brass, 40.5 w/ Lake City military Brass.
    71mm OAL
    this made an average of 2660fps out of a 10 shot group
     

    PoPo3

    Active Member
    Oct 26, 2009
    364
    Hagerstown, MD
    I use 43.5 grains of Varget, 175 Nosler Custom Competition, Federal primers and an OAL of 2.825. However, my buddies get good results from 43-45 grains of Varget. Work up.
     

    PipeHitter1316

    , , Engage Instructor
    Industry Partner
    Oct 2, 2011
    162
    roger wilco to everyones suggestions ive got a butt load of sierra 150, 180, and 190gr bullets with a sprinkling of 180gr Hornady spire point that im stuck with but i frequent the range so ill burn through that quickly!! THEN i will try your loads out!! already got them pasted on a word document
     

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