Found some old bayonets, looking for info!

[wowmattsays]

Hi everyone! I'm finding I love this forum more and more due to the fact that I can just ask all the random questions that come into my head and get great answers from truly knowledgeable people!

Anyway, my grandpa passed away a few months ago and we have been going through his house. I knew about these my whole life, but I never really knew WHAT they were. I wanted to share, and maybe learn about what I now have in my possession. Any information, history, facts, etc would be greatly appreciated. I probably won't ever sell any of them just for sentimental reasons, but maybe I would like to know the current going prices as well!


Here is the whole group:

And now for some close-ups:

This one seems to be the newest, but I have no idea what it is:

This one I was able to find a bit of information about, including that it was made by Mauser in Germany and was used in WWI, there is a stamp on the sheath that shows the German Iron Cross:

This one seems to be the oldest for sure, it does not have a sheath, but it just feels so old:

My dad seems to remember from his childhood that maybe this one is from Japan? I don't know anything else about it:

Well there they all are! Maybe I'll learn something! FYI, Grandpa was a Bombardier Navigator in a B-17 Flying Fortress, and he was involved in the Holland food drops towards the end of the war. I have no idea how these would have come into his possession!



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[engineerbrian]

The top one is an Austro Hungarian bayonet for a Steyr from ww1. The best part it is that you have the leather frog. They are usually worth more than the bayonet!

 

[bbrown]

Hi everyone! I'm finding I love this forum more and more due to the fact that I can just ask all the random questions that come into my head and get great answers from truly knowledgeable people!

Anyway, my grandpa passed away a few months ago and we have been going through his house. I knew about these my whole life, but I never really knew WHAT they were. I wanted to share, and maybe learn about what I now have in my possession. Any information, history, facts, etc would be greatly appreciated. I probably won't ever sell any of them just for sentimental reasons, but maybe I would like to know the current going prices as well!

As noted above, the first one (with the ring on the pommel) is Austrian for the Steyr M1895 rifle.

The second one is a WW2 German SG84/98 III, for the K98k rifle. The scabbard was made by the company Elite Diamant in 1941. There should be a makers mark on the bayonet blade, as well. Does the maker and number on the bayonet match the one on the scabbard? If so, the bayonet/scabbard combination is worth more to a collector than the individual pieces.

The third one is a WW1 German SG98/05 nA made by Mauser for the Gew98 rifle. The date of manufacture should be on the spine near the cross guard. The spine appears to have had the sawback removed.

The last one is a Danish model 1915.

 

[wowmattsays]

The second one is a WW2 German SG84/98 III, for the K98k rifle. The scabbard was made by the company Elite Diamant in 1941. There should be a makers mark on the bayonet blade, as well. Does the maker and number on the bayonet match the one on the scabbard? If so, the bayonet/scabbard combination is worth more to a collector than the individual pieces.

The third one is a WW1 German SG98/05 nA made by Mauser for the Gew98 rifle. The date of manufacture should be on the spine near the cross guard. The spine appears to have had the sawback removed.

The WWII German blade has "1445" on the blade, and the scabbard is marked with "Elite-Diamant" in scripted letters with "41" below it. I'm guessing this is not a matched set as you say.

Regarding the WWI blade, I do not have it in front of me but I'll certainly check the spine when I see it again. Why would anyone want to remove the sawback?! Seems like a sad destruction of a fine piece of history! Was it done on purpose during the war possibly??

Otherwise, thanks for the info!!



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[iH8DemLibz]

The WWII German blade has "1445" on the blade, and the scabbard is marked with "Elite-Diamant" in scripted letters with "41" below it. I'm guessing this is not a matched set as you say.

Regarding the WWI blade, I do not have it in front of me but I'll certainly check the spine when I see it again. Why would anyone want to remove the sawback?! Seems like a sad destruction of a fine piece of history! Was it done on purpose during the war possibly??

Otherwise, thanks for the info!!



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Many of the 98/05 saw back/butcher blades were reground, during the war, by the Germans themselves. Army depots. Armories. Etc.

Our side saw, sorry for the pun, them as barbaric instruments. German soldiers who were caught with one or using one didn't fair well.

I still regret selling the one I won at auction a few years back.

 

[mawkie]

Yeah, Allied propoganda stated that any German captured with a saw back engineer's bayonet, aka butcher blade, would be treated harshly. Silly thing to do for having a bayonet meant to double as a saw for cutting branches, posts, etc. They were pulled from production mid war. I actually happen to own one and they are nasty looking for sure, easy to demonize.

 

[newmuzzleloader]

Cool thread! I'm gonna piggyback on this and ask for info on a bayonet I have. The numbers match on the sheath. I believe it's Russian from WWII because the writing appears to be some variant of Cyrillic but other than that I know nothing.

 

[MilsurpDan]

Cool thread! I'm gonna piggyback on this and ask for info on a bayonet I have. The numbers match on the sheath. I believe it's Russian from WWII because the writing appears to be some variant of Cyrillic but other than that I know nothing.

Looks like a Yugo M24/47 or M48 Mauser bayonet

 

[iH8DemLibz]

Definitely not Russian.

They used cruciform bayonets.

Will second Yugoslavian. Preduzece 44.

 

[newmuzzleloader]

Interesting, I thought the # meant the year 1944 but instead it stands for the factory that made it. After reading the responses I found a site that gave me more info on this factory. The markings were written in English after 1953 and it does go on a M1948 Mauser.
Thanks! I thought I had a Russian bayonet from WWII