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  • Jul 1, 2012
    5,752
    Actually, it found me via a collector/dealer buddy trying to raise money for a 1918 BAR :)
    After a long layaway it finally showed up last week.

    The Model of 1911 traces its origins to this pistol, which is one of the 200 Colt 1902 "Military" models delivered to the US Army in July 1902.
    These were the first production 1902's and numbered 15001-15200
    (the S/N's on 1902 Sporting/Military and 1903 Pocket Hammer are weird)
    Ultimately Colt made about 18,000 Model 1902 Military pistols, but only these first 200 actually went to the military, the rest were sold commercially.

    The Army had received 300 of John Browning's Colt 1900 design with mixed reviews (Navy received 200).
    A number of the issues were addressed to create the Model 1902, including:
    1) Longer, reshaped grip frame accommodating an 8 shot magazine vice 7
    2) Addition of a lanyard loop
    3) Addition of a slide hold-back
    4) Replacing the iron firing pin/sight safety system with a brass inertia firing pin and driftable rear sight
    5) Changing the front recoil spring cover to a movable plug to release spring tension for takedown
    (1900 required using a pin or nail to hold the lock to remove the slide for field-stripping)

    Anyway this example isn't in the greatest of shape but the surviving high-condition pistols are
    (a) closely held by collectors
    (b) crazy expensive when they do come out of hiding
    Bore isn't too bad, and it doesn't look like it was ever messed with -
    alot of 1902's have the pins messed up from people using nails, etc to remove them.
    The holster is definitely not an original US Army issue (or contract) holster but was with it for the past who-knows-how-long years.
     

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    Jul 1, 2012
    5,752
    Awesome piece of history right there! The patina looks very nice to me.
    If you haven't already, are you going to shoot it?

    I haven't yet, I need to clean it and examine carefully first.
    I've got plenty of correctly-loaded .38 ACP so I may run a few rounds through it then put it away.
    Not worth the risk to shoot it more than that and break it, I've got other 1902's to shoot.

    Very cool story, what is the collector value of it?

    priceless :)
     

    ted76

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    Jan 20, 2013
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    Frederick
    Nice find, 1 of 200 in that condition is a rare find at any price. My guide lists that as worth $2,000 for fair condition to $7,500 good condition, which seams low to me.
    :thumbsup::thumbsup::thumbsup:
     

    lsw

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    Sep 2, 2013
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    Does that pistol use the parallogram locking system or had Brownung already switched to tilting barrel lockup when it was made?
     
    Jul 1, 2012
    5,752
    Thanks, guys.
    It's a pretty cool piece for sure.
    I actually saw this a while back on an obscure forum, the guy had gotten it from his grandfather. Always wondered what happened to it...
    he wound up selling it to a "door vulture" at a gun show in the mid-west, and it went thru a couple of dealers (marked up each time) before winding up with my buddy.

    Stuff like this really is still out there.

    Now to find the correct RIA holster...


    Does that pistol use the parallogram locking system or had Brownung already switched to tilting barrel lockup when it was made?

    It has the two-link system.
    That was still in use through the Colt 1905 Military (the real "Grandpappy" of the 1911).
    The single link first shows up in the 1909 prototype pistols.

    These are surprisingly accurate pistols even with the teeny sights.
    The .38 ACP round is zippy but shoots pretty soft in this big gun
    (the Super .38 was developed by making the .38 APC hotter - and will break these older pistols).
     

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