FNP: Kid brings 22 handgun to school and charged wity poss. of regulated ammo.

[ATTom]

http://www.fredericknewspost.com/sections/news/display.htm?StoryID=119161

kid should not have brought a gun to school. But 22 caliber ammo is regulated ammo?
Only in md.....

 

[Auckland]

http://www.fredericknewspost.com/sections/news/display.htm?StoryID=119161

kid should not have brought a gun to school. But 22 caliber ammo is regulated ammo?
Only in md.....

It is regulated against children possesing it right?

 

[squirrels]

They wanted to hit him with as much as possible, just in case. You know how the courts do this crap...they give the DA as many charges as possible and they pick which one(s) to prosecute, whichever gives him/her the best chance of winning.

He DID have a regulated firearm on him and, since he had no OTHER firearm in his immediate possession (in fact he legally couldn't own one), there is no reasonable expectation that the ammo was intended for use in a NON-regulated firearm.

 

[Boondock Saint]

That law is bogus. There's no such thing as ammunition designed for use solely in what Maryland deems to be a regulated firearm. Expect this language in the law to be attacked in the next legislative session.

 

[lx1x]

Isn't the md law, you have to be 18 to buy ammo? Hence they use the word regulated? Just a thought.

 

[Norton]

This is the exact reason why MSI opposed HB519 this year and it was subsequently amended to remove that language due to our testimony.

The prosecutors testifying in favor of the bill said that they needed discretion and would never apply it in this manner.

 

[Norton]

besides....he can't be charged with "ammunition designed solely for use in a regulated firearm" in this case because .22 ammo is used in a non-regulated firearm.

Now, on the gun charge.....he's screwed.

 

[rpker]

as far as "regulated ammunition goes the kids was probably charged under this statute
http://www.dsd.state.md.us/comar/comarhtml/29/29.03.01.28.htm

29.03.01.28

.28 Sales of Firearms or Ammunition to Minors.
A person may not sell, rent, or transfer:

A. Ammunition solely designed for a regulated firearm to a person who is younger than 21 years old; or

B. A firearm, other than a regulated firearm, ammunition for a firearm, pepper mace, or other deadly weapon to a minor.

For the record the kid is an idiot and he needs a good lawyer as the COMAR does not strictly prohibit the possesion of any ammunition by a minor just the sale or transfer to.

 

[Norton]

Ammunition solely designed for a regulated firearm

Legislative Unicorn.

 

[Copenhaver]

See, and I swore I saw some kids in the bathroom at great mills a few years back were looking at a pistol. It looked like a really abused Hi point, but I just thought it was an airsoft at the time.

I know for a fact this one kid was carrying an unloaded revolver, looked like a little .38 S&W. It was one of those kids that did stupid crap for attention, like show off anything illegal. He flashed it and started laughing at us, and he never got caught. They searched him and couldn't find anything on him, thats what scared me.


So it sadly seems to be a common thing

 

[rglrguy]

I'd like to hear more of the backstory on this one. I don't think that kids should be bringing firearms to school. However, I don't think this is much unlike what some other folks on this board do. It sounds like he felt a perceived threat against his safety and he decided to arm himself in self-defense. He did so illegally but I am sure people here would choose to conceal their regulated handgun illegally if they felt they may need it.

We don't know the threats against him or if this would have even been an appropriate use of force but I believe that he knew this was illegal and chose to do so anyway. He is an idiot for showing other kids at school though...

*I don't advocate breaking any laws and I don't condone school violence

 

[vector03]

How did he obtain this firearm? Bought it on the street? Took it from his parents?

Need more info here. If he bought it on the street...nothing you can do about that. If he took it from home, parents are idiot's.

 

[hailtoby]

How did he obtain this firearm? Bought it on the street? Took it from his parents?

Need more info here. If he bought it on the street...nothing you can do about that. If he took it from home, parents are idiot's.

Even if the kid got the gun from home, he was 15; you cant entirely blame that on the parents being idiots. 7 or 8 years old, yeah, blame the parents, but at 15, he knew exactly what he was doing and how to do it.

At 15, there wasnt anything my parents could have done to keep me from taking one of their guns to school if thats what I wanted to do.

Nothing short of not having guns in the house.

 

[QuebecoisWolf]

Unless more information comes out, there's not much to say here. We don't know who the kid is, where the gun came from, or any real details about the incident that led to the carrying of the gun. It could be a bullied kid who finally had enough of being beaten up or he could just as easily be a wannabe gangbanger (there was a high profile incident involving a bunch of white bread wannabes in suburban Crofton). Hard to say without any details.

 

[vector03]

Even if the kid got the gun from home, he was 15; you cant entirely blame that on the parents being idiots. 7 or 8 years old, yeah, blame the parents, but at 15, he knew exactly what he was doing and how to do it.

At 15, there wasnt anything my parents could have done to keep me from taking one of their guns to school if thats what I wanted to do.

Nothing short of not having guns in the house.

So locking up the gun in a Safe bolted to the floor wouldn't have done any good?

 

[hailtoby]

So locking up the gun in a Safe bolted to the floor wouldn't have done any good?

Nope, not when I was 15. Im not saying that I was a safecracker or that a safe in somebody else's house wouldn't have kept me out, but in my own house, I would have been able to get inside of it.

 

[ffemtreed]

where there is a will there is a way!

 

[BeltBuckle]

Nope, not when I was 15. Im not saying that I was a safecracker or that a safe in somebody else's house wouldn't have kept me out, but in my own house, I would have been able to get inside of it.

Were your parents in the habit of leaving a blowtorch laying around? In the use of which you were proficient?

My 800 pound Browning stops my kids dead in their tracks. The only person who knows the combination besides me is 2,000 miles away.

Now I concede that plastique would quickly resolve the matter. But finding it is a non trivial challenge for a 15 (or 45) year old, even if collateral damage were not a consideration...

My parents had a floor safe in their closet when I was a kid, and I knew what was in it and could get into it any time... but that was because my Dad never locked it Don't ask me why...

But a safe like the one I have would have stymied me. And I LOVE high explosives

 

[ffemtreed]

Were your parents in the habit of leaving a blowtorch laying around? In the use of which you were proficient?

My 800 pound Browning stops my kids dead in their tracks. The only person who knows the combination besides me is 2,000 miles away.

Now I concede that plastique would quickly resolve the matter. But finding it is a non trivial challenge for a 15 (or 45) year old, even if collateral damage were not a consideration...

My parents had a floor safe in their closet when I was a kid, and I knew what was in it and could get into it any time... but that was because my Dad never locked it Don't ask me why...

But a safe like the one I have would have stymied me. And I LOVE high explosives

I would have watched you many times open that safe and wrote down the combination or any hints of the combination, after a couple of times of watching you I would have had some data to make trial and error much effective. Heck in this day and age i would have had a hidden wireless webcam zoomed on that safe dial if I wanted to get into it.

I would have came up with many reason for you to open that safe. "hey dad lets go shooting, he dad I am building a website promoting the constitution and need a picture of a gun, hey dad I am doing a report for school on gun safety, can you tell me about your safe"

 

[ericoak]

as far as "regulated ammunition goes the kids was probably charged under this statute
http://www.dsd.state.md.us/comar/comarhtml/29/29.03.01.28.htm




For the record the kid is an idiot and he needs a good lawyer as the COMAR does not strictly prohibit the possesion of any ammunition by a minor just the sale or transfer to.

The kid the didn't sell anything he was the one that received it.