First time out with my Glock 34, got a question.

[justeric]

Just took my Glock 34 to an indoor range and found that it was shooting to the left, right out of the box. To move the groups to the center, I had to adjust my windage all the way to the right.

I suspect that I am introducing an error to the equation to push the point of impact to the left. I read that a weak trigger finger pushes the bullets to the left (for a right hand shooter). I guess that means I need to get more of the pad of my finger on the trigger. I'll try that in my next range session. My shots were pushed left but not left and low.

I figured that some of you own Glock 34's and just wanted to check to see if they (as opposed to me) shoot to the left?

I'm starting to practice dry firing with a penny on the top of my front site post. I don't think this drill shows if my trigger finger is to weak since I manage to keep the penny on top of the post.

When I go to the range, I'm going to have my buddy load my mags and have him slip some dummy rounds in here and there. It will be interesting to see how much I flinch when I run into those dummy rounds. I'll bet it's going to be really embarrassing.

Thanks!
Eric

 

[lx1x]

Yep.. use the pad of your trigger finger. Could also be your grip. Practice and have some expert see how you shoot to see if you're doing something wrong.

Penny trick is for flinching issues.

 

[Schwabe]

there are target help pictures out there, google target quadrants ect. ... here is an example

not saying this is the issue but unless you fire the gun from a fixed vise or at least from a bench you will not know if the gun is true or you have to practice the trigger pull.

 

[davsco]

yes left and low left generally indicate a less than smooth trigger pull. in all fairness, glocks have pretty crappy triggers, even the 34/35 that normally come with the lighter connector. look for the ".25 trigger job" that basically has you doing a little polishing. also glockworx sells a trigger reduction kit that comes with 3 springs that is pretty easy to install. you can also get an aftermarket connector that probably is a little smoother than the stock glock "-" one.

also try resting it on some sandbags and doing a very slow and smooth trigger pull and see if that helps.

 

[Easy CZ]

Here ya' go...

 

[Chasbo00]

Some worthwhile info on the correction charts:

http://pistol-training.com/archives/292

 

[Bigpops]

Eric - dont fret!

Though the advice and tables these folks have provided you are spot on...almost every single G34 I've messed with needs a site adjustment just as you did. (as long as the person is RH, right eye dominant and vice versa for a lefty)

If you made the adjustment and are shooting good groups - KEEP AT IT! My 34's are the same.

Steve

 

[SB281 Blaster]

I shoot pistol right and rifle left because I am blind the right eye. Because I have to bring the pistol over to the left and bend my wrist slightly every pistol I shoot out of the box shoots left. I adjust the sights accordingly, problem is any normal shooter using my pistols all shoot right! I am playing around with shooting pistol left handed, but at my age I am not likely to get any good at it. Needless to say I purchased a Glock rear sight tool.

 

[John from MD]

I shot almost all the Glock models except .380 in IDPA at one time or another. The Glock trigger is so different, you need to a good bit of trigger time to feel comfortable with it. Along with the "fluff and buff", I also added a New York Trigger spring which helps to force your finger to the reset.

Dry fire when you can and just practice and practice. It will get better.

John

 

[BRONZ]

My 34 does the same thing.

 

[BigBoiB]

I had the exact same issue with my Glock 21 when I first got it. Using some snap caps during range sessions helped understand that I was flinching. After getting over that, I would still shoot left and down sometimes. I found that my 'jerky' trigger pull was pushing the barrel slightly left right before firing. Slow, dry firing at home while staring at the front sights helped me realize what grip/finger position I needed to get used to when shooting this gun.

 

[Biggfoot44]

The "Coin on Gun" methods helps train for a smooth trigger pull overall, not just flinching.

In general , hitting to the left ( for right handed shooters , of either eye dominenece ) is a factor of trigger finger placement.

*In General" if the gun/ grip fits you hand perfectly , you can have a great deal of lattitude of finger placement , and have minimal impact on shot placement. If the fit is off , the finger plcement has to be perfect.

 

[QM2]

I see this a lot with glock owners, shooting to the "left".... And I believe, like others have already posted, that is just a result of shooter manipulation. My 34 and 21, right out of the box shot dead on. Just practice and I'm sure it will go away.

 

[Troublesbrewin]

My 34 shot high-left out of box and I'm a right eyed lefty. Take your time, use a wrist rest and adjust every 3-4 shots. But adjust slowly and deliberately. One click up or down OR left - right then shoot a few more rounds. You might want to put the target out a little farther then your used to as well while sighting it in.

 

[photoracer]

I shoot pistol right and rifle left because I am blind the right eye. Because I have to bring the pistol over to the left and bend my wrist slightly every pistol I shoot out of the box shoots left. I adjust the sights accordingly, problem is any normal shooter using my pistols all shoot right! I am playing around with shooting pistol left handed, but at my age I am not likely to get any good at it. Needless to say I purchased a Glock rear sight tool.

Changing hands is just a matter of practice and will power. In 2010 at the age of 63, having shot pistol LH and rifle RH for 50 years (LH but right eye dominant) I decided I needed to go all right handed due to both arthritis in my left hand and the eye issue. Within 6 months I was out shooting my LH pistol times. Bonus is when I now shoot IDPA my weak and strong hand times are the same speed. Now it seems funny when I shoot LH because I have to tilt my head down and to the left like I did before. Also when shooting from the weak eye side you should tilt your head, not alter your grip, wrist, or arm angle.

 

[spartan2250]

This is very likely "shooter induced". Try firming your support hand grip and working with your trigger control. You will straighten out with practice.

 

[mtnwisdom]

Pops, don't move the sights until you are shooting tight groups from a bench supported position.....

 

[shiloh228]

Yep.. use the pad of your trigger finger. Could also be your grip. Practice and have some expert see how you shoot to see if you're doing something wrong.

Penny trick is for flinching issues.

Not necessarily...I was shooting to left (Glock 19/Gen3), and moving the finger so that the trigger was closer to/on the first joint eliminated the leftward "push" from using the center of the finger pad (confirmed with observations in both dry-fire and live-fire)

This would seem to be a function of individual physiology (hand/finger size?)...experiment and see what works for you.

Could also be a stance issue. You need to find "natural point of aim." I found that my stance was a a factor in moving my shots to the left, so I moved my stance so that my natural point of aim was straight on (moved from isosceles to Weaver).

Check out an excellent book: "The Perfect Pistol Shot" by Albert H. League III for these -- and other -- great tips/techniques.

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/1610045718/ref=oh_details_o08_s00_i01?ie=UTF8&psc=1

My $0.02...