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I finally got around to taking some pictures of a second P75 I bought from Edelweiss arms, this time with what I call a Type 2 slide:
What in the yates is a Type 2 slide you ask? Actually, you probably aren't asking that but I'm gonna tell you anyways. Somewhere in the 12,xxx serial number range (11478 is a Type 1 and 13110 is a Type 2) they decided to start simplifying the design of the slide. Whether they did it to save money, time, both or just because they wanted to I have no idea. What I do know is, they did it.
Ok.....what did they do? Below is a right side view of a Type 1 slide (top) and a Type 2 (bottom):
What we are looking at is the contour stamped into the frame that starts below the section port and runs forward and underneath the serial number. On the earlier slide, it is more "elegant" (for lack of a better word) and it has a gentle radius both at the top where it transitions into the thinner part of the slide above and at the bottom where it transitions into the wider, lower part of the slide that rides over the frame rail.
On the later slide, that contour is a much simpler flat surface which has relatively sharp edges where it transitions. It almost looks like the entire thing is ground into the slide rather then stamped into it. For all I know it is as I'm no expert on how these things were made. Whatever the case, it has a more industrial, no nonsense look. This same contour is still seen on the Sig Sauer pistols made today.
When we look at the left side, the change is even more obvious:
The way the light is hitting the contour being discussed really illustrates just how much this area was simplified. BUT, notice that the grasping serrations remain unchanged on the Type 2; both slides have 19 serrations.
Later, an even more simplified Type 3 slide was adopted which dropped the number of serrations down to 12. The Type 3 serrations are more aggressive too for a better grip when charging the pistol. At the same time, other changes were adopted all of which were cosmetic in nature. Switchover to the Type 3 took place somewhere between serial numbers 19205 - 22631 and, to my knowledge, there were no other changes to the 220 slide until the all milled version was adopted. Unfortunately, I do not currently have an example of a 220 with a Type 3 slide but I do have a P6 (German Police issue 225) which is essentially nnothing more than a shortened 220. It'll do for comparison purposes:
It is important to note that as far as I know, there were never any changes mechanically speaking. All changes were aesthetic only. Also, as far as I can tell, the barrels, frames, recoil assemblies, everything on a Type 1, 2 or 3 is absolutely identical other than the slides.
From above, the Type 1 and 2 are identical:
When the Type 3 was adopted, the humps were omitted and replaced with the simple flat area we typically see on a 220.
While we're at it, let's look at a few other things on this Type 2 P75:
The holster that it came with is identical to the one that came with my earlier pistol save for the rivet pattern on the back. That probably has less to do with a design change and more to do with the fact that a different contractor made it. This particular example was made in 1976:
As with the earlier pistol, the rails show nearly zero wear:
I did not clean the Automatenfett (fancy-dancy Swiss grease) off of this Swisstol prior to photography. This way, I have a record of how it was lubed up when imported from the promised land.
Lots of pretty grease on and behind the locking block:
Along the bottom of the breach block/slide insert:
In and around the front bushing:
On the hammer/firing bits:
On the feed ramp and in the chamber:
And in the bore itself:
While I couldn't capture it in pictures, everything on the inside is slick, apparently because everything has a light coating of that beautiful Swiss grease. I wonder how that stuff would do in my Honda engine......just kidding.
What in the yates is a Type 2 slide you ask? Actually, you probably aren't asking that but I'm gonna tell you anyways. Somewhere in the 12,xxx serial number range (11478 is a Type 1 and 13110 is a Type 2) they decided to start simplifying the design of the slide. Whether they did it to save money, time, both or just because they wanted to I have no idea. What I do know is, they did it.
Ok.....what did they do? Below is a right side view of a Type 1 slide (top) and a Type 2 (bottom):
What we are looking at is the contour stamped into the frame that starts below the section port and runs forward and underneath the serial number. On the earlier slide, it is more "elegant" (for lack of a better word) and it has a gentle radius both at the top where it transitions into the thinner part of the slide above and at the bottom where it transitions into the wider, lower part of the slide that rides over the frame rail.
On the later slide, that contour is a much simpler flat surface which has relatively sharp edges where it transitions. It almost looks like the entire thing is ground into the slide rather then stamped into it. For all I know it is as I'm no expert on how these things were made. Whatever the case, it has a more industrial, no nonsense look. This same contour is still seen on the Sig Sauer pistols made today.
When we look at the left side, the change is even more obvious:
The way the light is hitting the contour being discussed really illustrates just how much this area was simplified. BUT, notice that the grasping serrations remain unchanged on the Type 2; both slides have 19 serrations.
Later, an even more simplified Type 3 slide was adopted which dropped the number of serrations down to 12. The Type 3 serrations are more aggressive too for a better grip when charging the pistol. At the same time, other changes were adopted all of which were cosmetic in nature. Switchover to the Type 3 took place somewhere between serial numbers 19205 - 22631 and, to my knowledge, there were no other changes to the 220 slide until the all milled version was adopted. Unfortunately, I do not currently have an example of a 220 with a Type 3 slide but I do have a P6 (German Police issue 225) which is essentially nnothing more than a shortened 220. It'll do for comparison purposes:
It is important to note that as far as I know, there were never any changes mechanically speaking. All changes were aesthetic only. Also, as far as I can tell, the barrels, frames, recoil assemblies, everything on a Type 1, 2 or 3 is absolutely identical other than the slides.
From above, the Type 1 and 2 are identical:
When the Type 3 was adopted, the humps were omitted and replaced with the simple flat area we typically see on a 220.
While we're at it, let's look at a few other things on this Type 2 P75:
The holster that it came with is identical to the one that came with my earlier pistol save for the rivet pattern on the back. That probably has less to do with a design change and more to do with the fact that a different contractor made it. This particular example was made in 1976:
As with the earlier pistol, the rails show nearly zero wear:
I did not clean the Automatenfett (fancy-dancy Swiss grease) off of this Swisstol prior to photography. This way, I have a record of how it was lubed up when imported from the promised land.
Lots of pretty grease on and behind the locking block:
Along the bottom of the breach block/slide insert:
In and around the front bushing:
On the hammer/firing bits:
On the feed ramp and in the chamber:
And in the bore itself:
While I couldn't capture it in pictures, everything on the inside is slick, apparently because everything has a light coating of that beautiful Swiss grease. I wonder how that stuff would do in my Honda engine......just kidding.
