Even LE are now reduced to smaller magazines, CRAZY!!

[Rich1911]

Trust me, you couldn't afford the upkeep (including property insurance) on a live missile site.

BTW, the only place I know of that specifically prohibits nuclear weapons is Takoma Park. So knock yourself out...

I think he may have been joking...

 

[CZ TAIJI]

IT SAYS OFF DUTY, what's the big deal smdh. ijs

 

[Allen65]

BTW, the only place I know of that specifically prohibits nuclear weapons is Takoma Park. So knock yourself out...

The fuel's pretty serious HAZMAT, too. The regulatory compliance paperwork cost would be more than the maintenance.

 

[Biggfoot44]

Wouldn't a nuke still be a DD , and need a Form 1 ?

 

[Mark75H]

Kinda hard to argue that those are "bearable" by an individual. That would need quite a sling.

"bearable" is not found in the Second Amendment. Many merchant vessels of the day bore defensive artillery that was beyond human means to transport without mechanical assistance. There is no constitutional limit.

 

[AliasNeo07]

"bearable" is not found in the Second Amendment. Many merchant vessels of the day bore defensive artillery that was beyond human means to transport without mechanical assistance. There is no constitutional limit.

I think that is debatable. Certainly Justice Scalia thought that the amendment only applied to arms that could be hand-carried. Not that Justice Scalia is the answer to everything, but he is the answer to a lot. And if he of all people thought that, you can be sure that many others will.

 

[Pinecone]

Seriously, what LEO is going to arrest another LEO for carrying with a standard magazine?

This is Fake News!

New Jersey

They used to hassle MSP officers that had to go into the state, over the fact that MSP got to wear Smokey the Bear hats and NJ troopers could not.

And this is the state that has arrested a number of people, in compliance with FOPA, just to make them go to court.

 

[adit]

HOW YOU FIGHT TYRANNY

A report from Reason reveals not a single New Jersey resident has surrendered their “high capacity” magazines to state police since the implementation of the magazine ban.

Breitbart News reported that New Jersey’s “high capacity” magazine ban took effect December 11, 2018, making the mere possession of such a magazine a fourth degree felony.

At first, the New Jersey State Police refused to rule out door-to-door enforcement of the ban, then made clear that they had no plans to go house-to-house.

Now, over two weeks since the ban took effect, the NJSP say no residents have surrendered their “high capacity” magazines.

According to Reason, NJSP Sgt. Jeff Flynn said “they have received ‘zero'” magazines as a result of the ban.

https://www.breitbart.com/politics/...endering-high-capacity-magazines-state-police

 

[John from MD]

Charlie said it best. " From my cold dead hands." RIP and God Bless.

 

[randomuser]

HOW YOU FIGHT TYRANNY




https://www.breitbart.com/politics/...endering-high-capacity-magazines-state-police

"Now, over two weeks since the ban took effect, the NJSP say no residents have surrendered their “high capacity” magazines.

According to Reason, NJSP Sgt. Jeff Flynn said “they have received ‘zero'” magazines as a result of the ban.
"

This is much different than telling them the shall not infringe to their face.

Let me explain.

1......If a bully on a playground pushes you around and you go home and talk trash about him when he isn't around (same as not turning in mags) to your friends about how you can smash his face in if you feel like it

The alternative is:

2........If a bully on a playground pushes you around and you tell him "if you touch me a gain, I'm gong to smash your face" and he walks away.


see, the difference here is that one way (example 1) you are gong with the program of the bully following what he ultimately wants and talking trash and holding your mags when he is not present talking about how big and bad you are while you are IN HIDING.

The second example tells him that he better back off.

Holding your mags in hiding just means that they pick people off one by one as opposed to the masses standing in solidarity telling the bully that he shall not infringe right to his face as a group that outnumbers the bully. I mean, if that happened, what could the bully do?

the cold dead hands saying. The only problem with that is as long as we talk to the bull one at a time he wins. its only through solidarity that change is made.

perhaps we should write letters and send emails to our congressman to make things change. That seems to work pretty well.

 

[ironpony]

Does the NJ law say mags "must be surrendered" or is this just a feel good number for gun owners?




This is like NJ saying all $100 bills with a serial number ending with a "4" are no longer legal to possess, do we really think they will be turned in? I find little solace in this number.

 

[adit]

Does the NJ law say mags "must be surrendered" or is this just a feel good number for gun owners?

This is like NJ saying all $100 bills with a serial number ending with a "4" are no longer legal to possess, do we really think they will be turned in? I find little solace in this number.

Section 4 say what you must do. Failure is a 4th degree felony.

The "grace period" ended December 11th.

Section 5 is a the trap IMHO.

(4) A semi-automatic rifle with a fixed magazine capacity exceeding [15] 10 rounds. “Assault firearm” shall not include a semi-automatic rifle which has an attached tubular device and which is capable of operating only with .22 caliber rimfire ammunition.

y. "Large capacity ammunition magazine" means a box, drum, tube or other container which is capable of holding more than [15] 10 rounds of ammunition to be fed continuously and directly therefrom into a semi-automatic firearm. The term shall not include an attached tubular device which is capable of holding only .22 caliber rimfire ammunition.

2. (New section) Notwithstanding the provisions of subsection j. of N.J.S.2C:39-3, a retired law enforcement officer who is authorized to possess and carry a handgun pursuant to subsection l. of N.J.S.2C:39-6 may possess and carry a large capacity ammunition magazine which is capable of holding up to 15 rounds of ammunition that can be fed continuously and directly into a semi-automatic handgun.

3. (New section) Notwithstanding the provisions of N.J.S.2C:39-6, a law enforcement officer may possess and carry while on duty a large capacity ammunition magazine and possess and carry while off duty a large capacity ammunition magazine which is capable of holding up to 15 rounds of ammunition that can be fed continuously and directly into a semi-automatic firearm.

4. (New section) Any person who legally owns a semi-automatic rifle with a fixed magazine capacity exceeding 10 rounds or a large capacity ammunition magazine as defined under subsection y. of N.J.S.2C:39-1 which is capable of holding more than 10 rounds of ammunition on the effective date of P.L. , c. (C. ) (pending before the Legislature as this bill) may retain possession of that rifle or magazine for a period not to exceed 180 days from the effective date of this act. During this time period, the owner of the semi-automatic rifle or magazine shall:

a. Transfer the semi-automatic rifle or magazine to any person or firm lawfully entitled to own or possess that firearm or magazine;

b. Render the semi-automatic rifle or magazine inoperable; or

c. Voluntarily surrender the semi-automatic rifle or magazine pursuant to the provisions of N.J.S.2C:39-12.

5. N.J.S.2C:39-12 is amended to read as follows:

2C:39-12. No person shall be convicted of an offense under this chapter for possessing any firearms, weapons, destructive devices, large capacity ammunition magazines, silencers or explosives, if after giving written notice of his intention to do so, including the proposed date and time of surrender, he voluntarily surrendered the weapon, device, instrument or substance in question to the superintendent or to the chief of police in the municipality in which he resides, provided that the required notice is received by the superintendent or chief of police before any charges have been made or complaints filed against such person for the unlawful possession of the weapon, device, instrument or substance in question and before any investigation has been commenced by any law enforcement agency concerning the unlawful possession. Nothing in this section shall be construed as granting immunity from prosecution for any crime or offense except that of the unlawful possession of such weapons, devices, instruments or substances surrendered as herein provided.

(cf: N.J.S.2C:39-12)

6. This act shall take effect immediately.

STATEMENT



This bill bans firearm magazines that hold more than 10 rounds of ammunition. Magazines capable of holding up to 15 rounds of ammunition currently are legal in New Jersey.

Specifically, the bill revises the definition of a “large capacity ammunition magazine” to reduce the allowable rounds of ammunition from 15 to 10. The bill also designates a semi-automatic rifle with a fixed magazine capacity exceeding 10 rounds as a prohibited assault firearm.

The bill exempts law enforcement officers from the bill’s 10 round limit on ammunition magazines by authorizing them to possess and carry while on duty a large capacity ammunition magazine and possess and carry while off duty a large capacity ammunition magazine which is capable of holding up to 15 rounds of ammunition. The bill also permits retired police officers authorized to possess and carry a handgun in this State to continue to possess and carry a magazine capable of holding up to 15 rounds.

The bill exempts from the 10 round limitation those semi-automatic rifles which have an attached tubular magazine and which are capable of operating only with .22 caliber rimfire ammunition. This exemption would permit the sale and possession of a popular beginner gun, the Marlin Model 60, often referred to as the “Boy Scout gun.” These firearms are low caliber and the attached tubular magazine cannot be quickly reloaded.

The bill’s provisions are effective immediately, but allow for a 180-day grace period to transfer, render inoperable, or voluntarily surrender a semi-automatic rifle or magazine that will be unlawful under the bill.

https://www.njleg.state.nj.us/2018/Bills/S0500/102_I1.HTM

 

[John from MD]

Make sure you take your range bag out of the truck before driving into the Communist States.

 

[Pope414]

Spoke with a friend who is still on the job. He says that the matter has been addressed and Leo's are exempt

 

[Hawkeye]

Spoke with a friend who is still on the job. He says that the matter has been addressed and Leo's are exempt

Yup. The PBA "fixed the problem" for them.

 

[cantstop]

Thank the good Lord our social class system is back in place!

Hallelujah!