To be frank - if I were a dealer, I don't think I could ethically sell a .22lr pistol which is advertised as having 90% reliability to someone intending to use it for self defense.
To be frank - if I were a dealer, I don't think I could ethically sell a .22lr pistol which is advertised as having 90% reliability to someone intending to use it for self defense.
Whoever threatened Andy, his family, dog, or coworkers should be brought up on charges. I just watched the video on facebook and I was appalled by this who incident. It seems to be Andy was mislead and it was almost a trap.
I will be buying something from Andy in the near future.
Can someone post the video here? I dont have access to FB....
If you watch Andy's video on his facebook page, he didn't intend on selling it for such. He wanted to catch those who didn't want a regular firearm in the house for one reason or another, and just wanted something to take out to the range recreationally.
I wouldn't want it for defense either.
You did notice the "yet" in there, right?
Do you know what "yet" stands for? You're Eligible Too.
Of course, MD would jump right on this. Wanna bet Frosh has legislation requiring smart guns sitting in his desk drawer right now?
Since the threads were metered, this disappeared... It's the NJ code citation. (Emphasis mine.)
2C:58-2.3 Reports as to availability of personalized handguns.
2. a. On the first day of the sixth month following the effective date of P.L.2002, c.130 (C.2C:58-2.2 et al.), the Attorney General shall report to the Governor and the Legislature as to the availability of personalized handguns for retail sales purposes. If the Attorney General determines that personalized handguns are not available for retail sales purposes, the Attorney General, every six months thereafter, shall report to the Governor and the Legislature as to the availability of personalized handguns for retail sales purposes until such time as the Attorney General shall deem that personalized handguns are available for retail sales purposes and so report to the Governor and the Legislature. In making this determination, the Attorney General may consult with any other neutral and detached public or private entity that may have useful information and expertise to assist in determining whether, through performance and other relevant indicators, a handgun meets the statutory definition of a personalized handgun set forth in N.J.S.2C:39-1.
b.For the purposes of this section, personalized handguns shall be deemed to be available for retail sales purposes if at least one manufacturer has delivered at least one production model of a personalized handgun to a registered or licensed wholesale or retail dealer in New Jersey or any other state. As used in this subsection, the term "production model" shall mean a handgun which is the product of a regular manufacturing process that produces multiple copies of the same handgun model, and shall not include a prototype or other unique specimen that is offered for sale.
http://statutes.laws.com/new-jersey/title-2c/section-2c-58/2c-58-2-3
Like SUGARMANN, JOSHUA ALAN, founder and Executive Director of the Violence policy center getting an FFL, in DC? That could never happen, you have to engage in the business to get an FFL.
Oh, wait, he DOES have an FFL...In DC.
SUGARMANN, JOSHUA ALAN 1730 RHODE ISLAND AVE NW #1014 WASHINGTON DC 20036 1730 RHODE ISLAND AVE NW #1014 WASHINGTON DC 20036 2028228200
https://www.atf.gov/sites/default/f...il/XLS/0414-ffl-list-district-of-columbia.xls
To "blame" Engage for anything here is ludicrous. They are, and always have been, on our side.
The best way to show there is no demand is to show there is no demand by offering it, and no one shows up. You have a problem with the anti gunners mandating this technology, as does everyone. But if someone wants this technology, whats the problem, so long as people can choose, or not choose?
I'm glad he changed his mind. I'm sure it's been a rough week. Hopefully he can take a couple days off. I will swing by on my way to VA and buy something
I wonder if this would be considered G&S for a Maryland permit lol.
Pulling things together, read the NJ law from post #255. It takes ONE retail sale to start the three year clock running. Now read the above quoted post #118 about Sugarman. One single FFL who is a wolf in sheep's clothing, maybe Sugarman, maybe someone else, will sell just one of these guns with news cameras rolling, and you will hear the buyer or dealer openly challenge NJ to start the three year countdown. This is just one possible scenario. To think for a moment that stopping Engage would accomplish anything useful for us is silly and naïve. To be crude, let alone advocate violence, plays right into the antis hands.
A retail sale will happen soon, starting the NJ clock. Someone in the MGA will introduce a bill when the next catalyst event occurs. These things are certain. We don't address these underlying problems by jumping Andy. We need to attack them at the source.
You did notice the "yet" in there, right?
Do you know what "yet" stands for? You're Eligible Too.
Of course, MD would jump right on this. Wanna bet Frosh has legislation requiring smart guns sitting in his desk drawer right now?
Since the threads were metered, this disappeared... It's the NJ code citation. (Emphasis mine.)
http://statutes.laws.com/new-jersey/title-2c/section-2c-58/2c-58-2-3
I want someone to buy one so they can post a youtube video of how to take it apart and bypass the RFID lock.