Eleven days and counting for a 77R

[Mark75H]

My head spins.

 

[rbird7282]

Interesting....as an FFL myself, I'll look into how the process works. I will ask MSP directly with this cited law code.

MSP was sued in 2013 for this very thing and they lost. An FFL may release after 7 days if they haven’t heard from the MSP. After that it’s MSP’s problem


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[Alutacon]

Interesting....as an FFL myself, I'll look into how the process works. I will ask MSP directly with this cited law code.

No offense, but how as an FFL do you not know this?

 

[The Saint]

No offense, but how as an FFL do you not know this?

Because we are not lawyers and don't know everything. It's pretty simple. Try running your own business with the paperwork load and being told if you make a mistake with regulated firearms they will instantly yank your license to operate. My guess is simply that FFL's will not take the risk of going out of business from the extra paperwork and margin of error over making someone wait and not being confused.

 

[Slhaney]

I think you better read this:

https://mdsp.maryland.gov/Organization/Licensing%20Division%20Documents/LD-FRU-16-001.pdf

It only says if the seventh day falls on a Sunday or a Holiday. Otherwise, they are included in the seven day count.

 

[The Saint]

So here's the law statute for you folks, pertaining to applications placed "On Hold". They differ from a no response. This is quoted from law, not interpretation.

 

[rbird7282]

So here's the law statute for you folks, pertaining to applications placed "On Hold". They differ from a no response. This is quoted from law, not interpretation.

View attachment 419931

The OP isn’t on hold he just hasn’t received a response, therefore the shop can legally transfer it to him


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[The Saint]

Yes but the OP isn’t on hold he just hasn’t received a response, therefore the shop can legally transfer it to him


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I currently have a customer who IS "On Hold" and that's why I had said originally it can't be transferred. They make this s**t confusing on purpose...I swear.

 

[Mark75H]

They do have special talent for making things both confusing and difficult. We elect them just for this reason.

 

[The Saint]

They do have special talent for making things both confusing and difficult. We elect them just for this reason.

It's likely why the FFL will not take the risk of their business being shut down over just having the customer wait. Illegally releasing a piece to someone, even if you thought you were in the right, and even it was only once, would be ground to have your FFL revoked under this administration.

 

[Mark75H]

There are MANY who know when they are following the law and are not afraid.

 

[Bob A]

Ok, today's update.
No email from MSP. Logged onto website. Found a little message icon. Opened, it said the dealer entered the wrong ID or the gun is not on roster. Of course it is, I bought an identical model thru the same shop last year.

Called the shop. They looked into it. Clerk had entered.the info manually because the CZ stuff is confusing; CZ Brno for Czech, CZ USA for other. The upshot is I get another 7 days to wait.

This is what Maryland does best.

 

[outrider58]

Ok, today's update.
No email from MSP. Logged onto website. Found a little message icon. Opened, it said the dealer entered the wrong ID or the gun is not on roster. Of course it is, I bought an identical model thru the same shop last year.

Called the shop. They looked into it. Clerk had entered.the info manually because the CZ stuff is confusing; CZ Brno for Czech, CZ USA for other. The upshot is I get another 7 days to wait.

This is what Maryland does best.

Jeezus

 

[Doctor_M]

My record was a 111 day wait back when the old Whitemarsh Arms wouldn't release without the not-disapproved. Hope to never have that again.

 

[coinboy]

My record was a 111 day wait back when the old Whitemarsh Arms wouldn't release without the not-disapproved. Hope to never have that again.

WTF?!?

That's insane.

 

[rbird7282]

I had to wait probably 7 or 8 weeks back in 2013 from an IP here because they wouldn't release. Will never buy another firearm from them.

 

[Art3]

I had to wait probably 7 or 8 weeks back in 2013 from an IP here because they wouldn't release. Will never buy another firearm from them.

Those were strange times...My family had similar experiences and also 7/8th day releases from different shops.

 

[Art3]

Ok, today's update.
No email from MSP. Logged onto website. Found a little message icon. Opened, it said the dealer entered the wrong ID or the gun is not on roster. Of course it is, I bought an identical model thru the same shop last year.

Called the shop. They looked into it. Clerk had entered.the info manually because the CZ stuff is confusing; CZ Brno for Czech, CZ USA for other. The upshot is I get another 7 days to wait.

This is what Maryland does best.

I mean...I guess that's a legit explanation. At least you weren't erroneously and secretly prohibited somehow

It does suck that their carelessness is costing you so much time. Hopefully the dealer will offer some consolation prize.

 

[Bob A]

I mean...I guess that's a legit explanation. At least you weren't erroneously and secretly prohibited somehow

It does suck that their carelessness is costing you so much time. Hopefully the dealer will offer some consolation prize.

Yeah, at least my dogs are safe from the forces of Law and Order.

I made certain to mention to the dealer that I understood they'd received an email from MSP about the pistol misidentification. There was an "I'm sorry" in the conversation stream, IIRC, so that's of some comfort.

 

[Art3]

Yeah, at least my dogs are safe from the forces of Law and Order.

I made certain to mention to the dealer that I understood they'd received an email from MSP about the pistol misidentification. There was an "I'm sorry" in the conversation stream, IIRC, so that's of some comfort.

I know they are in the business to make money, but I would at the very least give you $10 back for the MSP fee...and maybe toss in a box of ammo.