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  • JohnK

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    Feb 10, 2013
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    It is worth reading the recent NRA-ILA newsrelease that includes information from a DOJ 'White Paper'.

    Why would Obama administration (and Democrats) push legislation that will not be effective? The likely answer is that they will say at a future tragedy that the cause was that the 2013 gun laws not going far enough. They will scream that greater gun control are needed.

    Obama's plan is not to reduce violence. Obama's plan is to reduce guns.


    Obama Justice Department Reveals Truth About State of the Union Claims
    Despite long odds, on Tuesday night, Barack Obama managed to turn in a State of the Union performance that was filled with more theatrical pandering than the event is typically known for. Once again seeking to capitalize off tragedy by opting for emotional, rather than reasoned arguments, the President reiterated his support for increased background checks and bans on common semi-automatic firearms and their magazines, which he referred to as "weapons of war and massive ammunition magazines."

    As usual, Obama's remarks were short on evidence that his gun control proposals would work. Of course, that evidence is sorely lacking--and who would know that better than the experts at his own Justice Department?

    In a white paper dated January 4 and obtained by NRA-ILA, the deputy director of the National Institute for Justice--DOJ's research and evaluation agency--said that the proposals before Congress are unlikely to have an effect unless they are made even more draconian. For instance, the document makes clear that the effectiveness of "universal" background checks "depends on … requiring gun registration." On the topic of magazines that hold more than 10 rounds of ammunition, NIJ writes, "In order to have an impact, large capacity magazine regulation needs to sharply curtail availability to include restrictions on importation, manufacture, sale, and possession." As for popular semi-automatic firearms, the NIJ notes, "Since assault weapons are not a major contributor to U.S. gun homicide and the existing stock of guns is large, an assault weapons ban is unlikely to have an impact on gun violence. If coupled with a gun buyback and no exemptions then it could be effective."
     

    WeaponsCollector

    EXTREME GUN OWNER
    Mar 30, 2009
    12,120
    Southern MD
    It's like that old saying:
    "Gun control is about control, not guns."
    DOJ helped give thousands of guns to Mexican drug cartels, so we should take them seriously when they say the American people should give up our guns.:rolleyes:
     
    Oct 27, 2008
    8,444
    Dundalk, Hon!
    Why would Obama administration (and Democrats) push legislation that will not be effective? The likely answer is that they will say at a future tragedy that the cause was that the 2013 gun laws not going far enough. They will scream that greater gun control are needed.

    Standard Operating Procedure.
     

    RCH

    Will work for ammo.
    Mar 18, 2007
    1,948
    PG County
    As we have seen in Great Britian and now California, this is but one of many steps to take guns away from us. Slowly they will chip away at what we can own. Assault Rifles are first not because of the violence, rather because they are superior weapons to handguns and shotguns. Magazines are being limited for the same reason. The next tragedy, they will ban handguns. Then hunting rifles and shotguns.
     

    Drmsparks

    Old School Rifleman
    Jun 26, 2007
    8,441
    PG county
    If you read the clinton DOJ evaluation of the original AWB it pointed out two specific things:

    A secondary market (grandfathering) was part of the AWB theory- prices would be driven so high that criminals could not afford them because speculators and investors would be buying them instead.

    Secondly, because AW were not used in very many crimes before the ban any change in the crime numbers was meaningless because it was statistically insignificant...
     

    Hopalong

    Man of Many Nicknames
    Jun 28, 2010
    2,921
    Howard County
    Secondly, because AW were not used in very many crimes before the ban any change in the crime numbers was meaningless because it was statistically insignificant...

    Most statisticians recognize something called "The Law of Small Numbers", which states, roughly, that when the fractional change is the same order of magnitude as your measurement uncertainty, even a seemingly large change is utterly meaningless.

    There have been a few studies that point out, quite correctly, that homicides committed by "assault weapons" decreased by something like 60% during the federal AWB. What these studies fail to point out is hat even a 60% change was stastically insignificant because the original number was so low.

    There are lies, damned lies, and statistics....
     

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