D.C.’s ‘red flag’ gun seizures are low. Officials hope to change that.

[Sunrise]

D.C.’s ‘red flag’ gun seizures are low. Officials hope to change that.​

https://www.washingtonpost.com/dc-md-va/2023/08/22/dc-red-flag-gun-seizures/

Such petitions for extreme risk protection orders have been filed 51 times since the D.C. Council passed the law in December 2018, 13 of which came from police, according to a review of D.C. Superior Court records and data from the D.C. Attorney General’s Office.

Of course, Council member Charles "Defund the Police" Allen (D-Ward 6) believes that low figure suggests that many District residents may not be aware of the law or that police aren’t invoking it as often as they could.

Love how they also blame us legal carriers for the crimes we aren't committing by invoking Heller and Wrenn in the article as well.

Before that 2017 decision, only 123 people had active concealed-carry permits from D.C. police. By 2020, about 4,800 people had permits. Today, the District has 15,268 active concealed-carry permits, with a little over one-third of those belonging to D.C. residents and the rest to those who live outside the District, according to D.C. police data.

 

[Doco Overboard]

Really what this Information tells me is that DC lawmakers blow.
And they keep their jobs by not having poor metrics and want o eat their cake too.
51 RF’s for a tool that was desperately needed to curb weapons related violence.
Helluva ROi.
Maybe they should have spent those monies better teaching their targeted voting block how to read and write and put their local government how to be productive instead of being a snitch.

 

[teratos]

So they’ll make stuff up to get more red flag gun seizures?

 

[jr88]

Another misguided attempt to lower gun crimes. How about just locking up anyone committing a crime with a handgun ??

 

[jr88]

The problem with Red Flag laws in places like DC and Baltimore are 98% of the cases where they are needed are in "Snitches get Stitches" areas. Maybe they can try and get drug users to turn in drug dealers too.

 

[Sunrise]

The problem with Red Flag laws in places like DC and Baltimore are 98% of the cases where they are needed are in "Snitches get Stitches" areas. Maybe they can try and get drug users to turn in drug dealers too.

Where's Omar when we need him?



ATF tried a "Turn in Your Ex" program for Valentine's Day 2022. I wonder if anybody called/emailed:

 

[Sunrise]

So they’ll make stuff up to get more red flag gun seizures?

In the name of equity, yes.

 

[Sunrise]

Really what this Information tells me is that DC lawmakers blow.
And they keep their jobs by not having poor metrics and want o eat their cake too.
51 RF’s for a tool that was desperately needed to curb weapons related violence.
Helluva ROi.
Maybe they should have spent those monies better teaching their targeted voting block how to read and write and put their local government how to be productive instead of being a snitch.

Don't worry. They're going to spend more money on it so that more people know about it. That'll definitely improve the ROI... For sure.

DC’s Red Flag Law: Removing Guns From Potentially Dangerous Persons | Attorney General Brian Schwalb

oag.dc.gov

 

[toppkatt]

I didn't see one handgun in the above picture
How often are rifles used in robberies? Talk about printing...

 

[brianns]

I didn't see one handgun in the above picture
How often are rifles used in robberies? Talk about printing...

Might be just a table from a gun show. Picture of scary guns to make it seem these ought to be found from red flag seizures.

 

[Sunrise]

There's a lot more interesting stuff in this article.... Read the whole thing....

D.C. doesn't use its red-flag law as much as neighboring jurisdictions do. Take Fairfax County, which has about 1.1 million residents compared to the District’s roughly 700,000 residents. There have been about 100 red-flag cases since October alone under Virginia’s law, which Virginia passed in 2020. However, it's apparently difficult to compare D.C. with other jurisdictions because many of the guns in the District are illegal, meaning that MPD can seize them without an emergency order.

According to Janese Bechtol, chief of the D.C. attorney general’s domestic violence and special victims unit, that may be the reason the DC's red-flag law has not been used more often. To quote him: “If it’s an illegal weapon, we can get rid of it without going through court."

Also, DC's red-flag law can be used to take illegal guns. DC's red-flag law includes an incentive for people to report loved ones who might be in danger: a provision grants immunity to people whose guns are illegal if they agree to give up the weapons, and they have not been used in a crime. Apparently, this is similar to a law already on D.C.'s books: “safe surrender”. Safe surrender enables people to turn over their illegal guns without the threat of prosecution, unless the gun has been used in a crime.

Amazing.

 

[Sunrise]

I didn't see one handgun in the above picture
How often are rifles used in robberies? Talk about printing...

Armed carjacking by duo in MoCo, MD with a long gun and handgun.

Also found this:

Man wielding a long rifle assaulted and robbed a DC man

"Drop all of it, give me all of it," the assailant said. Then he became violent, according to the police report.

www.wusa9.com

Men Jump Out of Car With AK-47s in DC, Alarming New Photos Show

The men robbed an armored car employee and then fled in a getaway vehicle, ditching the bag later, police say.

patch.com

Carjackers with 'AK-47 style assault rifles' robbed Chevy Chase driver, cops say

It happened early Sunday near Connecticut Ave. and Military roads NW.

www.fox5dc.com

 

[Allen65]

Another misguided attempt to lower gun crimes. How about just locking up anyone committing a crime with a handgun ??

Not gonna happen. Would impact too many constituents. People in prison don't vote.

 

[Sunrise]

Another misguided attempt to lower gun crimes. How about just locking up anyone committing a crime with a handgun ??

Don't assume anything about this is to lower gun crimes.

 

[6-Pack]

But Heyne noted it can be difficult to compare D.C. with other jurisdictions, because many of the guns in the District are illegal, meaning police can seize them without an emergency order.

Now try to understand that logic

 

[6-Pack]

Apparently, this is similar to a law already on D.C.'s books: “safe surrender”. Safe surrender enables people to turn over their illegal guns without the threat of prosecution, unless the gun has been used in a crime.

This sounds like a pseudo carry-permit to me: "No officer, I was surrendering this firearm on behalf of a family member."

No who has some cheap HiPoints or Rohms for sale?

 

[K31]

Well if they go after legal gun owners, which is what red flag laws are all about, they'll soon have zero red flag seizures. So this is really a self defeating change.

Better if they saved them up.

Go after one legal gunowner this year and the other two next year and claim a 100% increase in seizures like good little totalitarian propagandists.

 

[Sunrise]

This sounds like a pseudo carry-permit to me: "No officer, I was surrendering this firearm on behalf of a family member."

No who has some cheap HiPoints or Rohms for sale?

§ 7–2507.05. Voluntary surrender of firearms, destructive devices, or ammunition; immunity from prosecution; determination of evidentiary value of firearm. | D.C. Law Library

code.dccouncil.gov

Voluntarily and Peaceably Surrendering a Firearm | mpdc

How can I turn in a gun to MPD? You may voluntarily and peaceably deliver a firearm, destructive device, or ammunition to one of ten police district stations or substations in the District of Columbia. Alternatively you can call 311 and ask MPD to pick up the weapon from your residence or place...

mpdc.dc.gov

DC Official Code § 7-2507.05 (a)​

If a person or organization within the District voluntarily and peaceably delivers and abandons to the Chief of Police any firearm, destructive device or ammunition at any time, such delivery shall preclude the arrest and prosecution of such person on a charge of violating any provision of this section with respect to the firearm, destructive device, or ammunition voluntarily delivered. Delivery under this section may be made at any police district, station, or central headquarters, or by summoning a police officer to the person’s residence or place of business. Every firearm and destructive device to be delivered and abandoned to the Chief under this section shall be unloaded and securely wrapped in a package, and, in the case of delivery to a police facility, the package shall be carried in open view. No person who delivers and abandons a firearm, destructive device, or ammunition under this section, shall be required to furnish identification, photographs or fingerprints. No amount of money shall be paid for any firearm, destructive device, or ammunition delivered and abandoned under this section.

(b) Whenever any firearm, destructive device, or any ammunition is surrendered under this section or pursuant to § 7-2502.10(c)(1), the Chief shall inquire of the United States Attorney and the Corporation Counsel for the District whether such firearm is needed as evidence; provided, that if the same is not needed as evidence, it shall be destroyed.

Incredible.

 

[Sunrise]

Now try to understand that logic

Maybe Heyne can explain why there are so many illegal guns in DC.... I'm sure we'll get something with similar logic.

 

[jr88]

Not gonna happen. Would impact too many constituents. People in prison don't vote.

Exactly, But the so called leaders can say they are doing something and the sheeple will buy into it.